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It seems to me that I can perform the the most fundemental steps using either of the two products.. unlitmately creating a MKV using MKVMerge... Based on your experience with the two, if not doing sub-titles/chapters, etc. Which is the best tool to use? Quality, ease of use, etc. etc.


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Hi stanglx, While I'm not super experienced, I have done a dozen or so backups.


I tend to use eac3to when I'm going to end up with a .mkv. OTOH, If I want an .iso I'll use TSMuxer; it has a convinient bd format output.


I think you're right in that either tool could work, probably personal preference.


That's how I do it.


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I think a lot of people also like to convert their HD audio tracks (TrueHD, DTS-MA) to flac and I think you have to use eac3to for that.
 

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Originally Posted by stanglx /forum/post/15544643


It seems to me that I can perform the the most fundemental steps using either of the two products.. unlitmately creating a MKV using MKVMerge... Based on your experience with the two, if not doing sub-titles/chapters, etc. Which is the best tool to use? Quality, ease of use, etc. etc.


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Use both, use eac3to to demux and fix any gaps, especially for the ones with seamless branching, normally if there are no gaps it won't make any difference and things will stay in sync, but if there are several pieces involved in the playlist, then eac3to is the best by a landslide. I normally use eac3to first everytime, then you have good synced audio and video, from that point you can use tsmuxer, mkvmerge, depending on the final container you want to use.
 

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I think a lot of people also like to convert their HD audio tracks (TrueHD, DTS-MA) to flac and I think you have to use eac3to for that.


True.. Flac is the main reason to use eac3to... I mostly just create ISO but have been considering changing to MKV w/Flac for audio.. I want the seemless integration with MMC and dont want to have to purchase PwrDVD or TMT and have the annoying issues.
 

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Use both, use eac3to to demux and fix any gaps, especially for the ones with seamless branching, normally if there are no gaps it won't make any difference and things will stay in sync, but if there are several pieces involved in the playlist, then eac3to is the best by a landslide.

Do you know of any movies where this would be necessary? I have done all of my backups with tsmuxer and haven't noticed anything yet. What should I look for? Does the type of audio used make a difference or is it directly related to seamless branching? How would I be able to tell which ones use seamless branching?


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Do you know of any movies where this would be necessary? I have done all of my backups with tsmuxer and haven't noticed anything yet. What should I look for? Does the type of audio used make a difference or is it directly related to seamless branching? How would I be able to tell which ones use seamless branching?


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The one that comes immediately to mind was Dewey Cox, that thing must have had 70 or 80 pieces, it was horribly out of sync using tsmuxer, of course I re-encode most everything, but the sync was all over the place on that one, I think Alien vs Predator: Requiem had a lot of pieces, but didn't go to far out of sync. I know there were a couple of others, but I can't think of them right off hand. Anything that has seamless branching is a crap shoot as far as getting all the pieces put together and keeping a/v sync.
 

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I want to be able to playback my BDs with no quality loss, and with as little overhead as possible. m2ts contains a lot of overhead; demuxing to mkv will save a few gigs right there, and then of course there is the big space saving you get by converting lossless tracks to flac, so for me I only us eac3to. Then of course, I don't at all like using PDVD or TMT, while I have a fond place in my heart for MPCHC, so mkv's via eac3to is perfect there as well.


@fido, every once in a while you'll come across a movie where, even though there is no seamless branching, the beginning or end or whatever of the movie will be in a different m2ts file. eac3to is great, because if you just point it to the main directory containing the files for a BD you've ripped to your HD, it will tell you which playlist contains all the files necessary for getting a complete version of your movie. From there you just select the playlist, and eac3to will combine everything into one file, correcting any audio gaps that might exist. You might be able to do this with tsmuxer, but I've never even used that software, because eac3to is perfect for what my requirements are.
 

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tsmuxer allows you to point to the playlist and auto tells you the delay if necessary.. m2ts has overhead?


How well does MKV stream?


One of the benefits of m2ts is its ability to stream..
 

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True.. Flac is the main reason to use eac3to... I mostly just create ISO but have been considering changing to MKV w/Flac for audio.. I want the seemless integration with MMC and dont want to have to purchase PwrDVD or TMT and have the annoying issues.

I've gotten video->mkv, audio->lpcm in a m2ts using eac3to/TSMuxer to stream to my PS3. Full 6 channels ... no problems (of course except for VC-1 which is a separate issue). I am now playing around with FLAC instead of lpcm to save some space.


I've just tried video->mkv, audio->flac in a mkv and for sure, it doesn't work.


I suspect it's the video portion (in mkv that PS3 doesn't like?) Any ideas on what to do with the video stream w/o loosing quality and yet be able to stream?
 

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I actually use both. If my source is a Blu-ray Disc, then I've benerally been using BDInfo to pick the playlist, and TSMuxer to rebuild the BD without extras.


I use eac3to when my source is an HD DVD. I have it make a chapter, video, and audio file and feed those to TSMuxer.


TSMuxer's been great, with one huge, two notable exceptions, if the source is TrueHD with no AC3 core, TSMuxer can't handle it at all. The other one is if it's TrueHD with a 448kbps AC3 core. Then TSMuxer acts like it works, but I think it packs extended data in with the core causing problems when the file is played back.


Anybody know of something that can create a Blu-ray "compliant" output structure (with chapters) and handles TrueHD and individual streams right?
 

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I use both I do alot of bluray encodes which end up mkv with dts(if available)


I use tsmuxer to demux the tracks to get the audio and subs out so I can ocr the subs and the I use eact3o to convert the True-HD to DTS or extract the core from a DTS-HD, Both are great tools.
 

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I use both I do alot of bluray encodes which end up mkv with dts(if available)


I use tsmuxer to demux the tracks to get the audio and subs out so I can ocr the subs and the I use eact3o to convert the True-HD to DTS or extract the core from a DTS-HD, Both are great tools.

You are aware, aren't you, that eac3to will also demux the tracks (including the subs).
 

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Anyone know how to put subtitles back into mkv when remuxing with mkvmerge? I tried using tsmuxer but only get screeching sounds and slow playback with tsmuxer.
 

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Anyone know how to put subtitles back into mkv when remuxing with mkvmerge? I tried using tsmuxer but only get screeching sounds and slow playback with tsmuxer.

If you're trying to remux the .sup I don't believe that mkvmerge will handle it and that the player may not handle that format in any case (VobSub does not seem to work even with the .m2ts file).


You can ocr it to .srt with SupRip (NOT SubRip) and then it works fine.
 

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Dear Friends


When eac3to extract chapters to chapters.txt, is there any command to use this chapters.txt in tsMuxeR?


tsMuxeR needs format:

00:00:00.000

hh:mm:ss:ms


...but chapters.txt from eac3to are like that:


CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000

CHAPTER01NAME=

CHAPTER02=00:09:30.862

CHAPTER02NAME=

CHAPTER03=00:19:08.355

CHAPTER03NAME=

CHAPTER04=00:27:16.260

CHAPTER04NAME=

CHAPTER05=00:34:22.811


Yes, I know I can delete everything and leave only hh:mm:ss.ms, but how may I do that in command line? I don't want to use GUI.


Thank you.


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Here's my 2 cents...

Eac3to to demux, tsmuxer to remux. I rarely ever use tsmuxer and do not use it to rip my purchased BD's.


If your target is MKV then give Another EAC3to GUI Plus a shot. Quick, painless, simple and the best I've seen to date which has support for (forced) subs, chapters, untouched HD, convert to flac or legacy.


If you're wanting to switch from one container (.ts, .m2ts, etc) to MKV you can Demux with tsmuxeR & remux files to mkv with MKVmerge.


Might want to browse this thread. How do YOU rip your Blu-rays?


For ts/m2ts, an ISO image, or a Blu-ray compliant suitable for burning checkout Clown_BD . How-to guide here
 
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