I started a thread a few months ago(car audio "bass head" in need of help transitioning to Home Theater),and afterwards I've almost made up my mind on which sub to buy.I've been doin my research,but since the date of the thread (in sept.)I've noticed some new interesting gear has come out. Its been kind of a battle between the cs 18.1 and the empire to this point,but then I see the 2 other mentioned subs and they look pretty interesting.Has any 1 done any comparisons with these subs?? Any owners feedback and links to reviews of the newer subs would be GREATLY appreciated. My vitals as metioned in the last thread are,,,.budget $1000,no real size limitations(just not a armoire sized sub,smile)11'9'11' room,and equal listening habits(HT,TV,games,music). I have a best bang for the buck approach to this,if I don't have to spend the whole budget,id rather not.if a higher price sub blows a lower priced out the water,I want it.But if their all bout equal,ill go with the lower priced.