Hello Mike, actually on re-reading you make a good point. My mistake. But Im still working on the theory that your second hobby is bell ringingHow am I tolling the bell? I just took issue with saying the Epson in Eco is quieter than the Sony in low. I would have said something if the post had stated the same thing, no matter what projectors were listed. You need to at least use the same mode, low to low and even then, it is only fair, if both projectors are putting out about the same lumens. It was not an apples to apples comparison. I already stated that the Epson is not a noisy projector. That would about be like me saying the Sony VW5000ES in high lamp is noisier than the LS10000 in low lamp. Yes it is, but what is the point, since we are not talking the same lumen output.