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A couple of weeks ago I had a hard drive failure in my UTV. No problem, I took the opportunity to upgrade to a 120GB drive and get extra recording capacity. I was pretty sure that it was a hard drive failure because my UTV displayed all the symptoms described in this forum: booting straight into the WebTV you-must-upgrade screen, light flashes for a very long time on poweroff, etc. Furthermore, I had arranged things so that my UTV had very little clearance around it and was sitting on top of a hot receiver! (What was I thinking?) Unplugging the unit from the power outlet for a entire day did not cure the problem but putting the new drive in did. So this was obviously a hard disk failure.


Well, maybe not. Today, I finally got around to playing with the original WD drive to see whether anything was recoverable. I put it in my computer and was surprised to see that the drive spun up and was detected correctly; often when a hard drive dies (actually the problem is almost always the controller board on the drive these days) it won't spin up or be detected by the computer. Still, the drive can sometimes be detected and still be fried. So I started up dlgdiag.exe to perform a drive test. The first thing it did before doing the test is say that there was some problem with my drive and ask whether I want to repair it? (Unfortunately, I did not write down the exact message.) Naturally, I opted to repair and instantly it reported that the repair was successful. I can't be certain, but I got the distinct impression that the problem was not a problem with the drive itself but a problem with data on the drive or in its CMOS to configure it. After doing this, all tests performed on the drive are successful with no evidence of any problems. So I decided to try the dlgdiag.exe + atapwd.exe technique to unlock the drive without losing the data on it and that was also successful. I'm going to try to recover the data later.


My point is, I suspect that somehow the UTV somehow wedged the drive but it was not actually a drive failure. I wonder how many other people apparently suffering from a drive failure actually didn't need to replace their drives?


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Clip... I just replaced one.


I put the, suspected?, broken drive in my computer and it won't recognize it.

Am I doing something wrong?

If it is working should it be recognized immediately?


If not, I assume it is toast..
 

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Clip... I just replaced one.


I put the, suspected?, broken drive in my computer and it won't recognize it.

Am I doing something wrong?

If it is working should it be recognized immediately?


If not, I assume it is toast..
For me, I just put it in my computer and it recognized it fine. If yours doesn't then your drive is probably toast.


Probably silly to remind you, but if your computer already has a drive in it make sure that both drives are not set as primary master! The UTV drives are set as primary master so either disconnect your computer's drive or switch the UTV drive to be a slave.


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Hi,


Just for those who might not know... UTV locks the hard drive to prevent access in PCs. To use in PC it must be "unlocked" first...


What is being discussed in this thread, may be a "fluke"...


If you can't read a UTV drive in your PC it might be "toast" OR it might not be unlocked...


Be sure you've attempted to unlock it first...before giving up on it...
 

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When you put a "UTV locked" hard drive in a PC, you should check to see if the BIOS recognizes the drive before booting to Windows. Often the BIOS will correctly identify the drive (size, sectors, heads, etc.) but you won't be able to do anything with it. If the BIOS won't recognize the drive then either you have an old BIOS that doesn't support large disks, or the disk is "toast". With original Seagate drives there is a DiskManager utility that you can install to overcome BIOS limitations. I don't know if there is a similar utility for WD disks. If the BIOS recognizes the drive, then you can likely "unlock" the drive using your UTV and the oft-posted steps. -TJ
 

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I can hear the drive fire up ...but the bios doesn't see it.


When I put it (it's a Seagate)in another UTV it wouldn't reformat it ( no blinking lights) the UTV started right into trying to dial MSN.. then once connected it said "internet terminal need to be repaired"... same thing it said in the original UTV I took it out of..


A new WD drive fixed the problem though


Guess it is toast..
 

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Klassic, as you stated same thing happens to me, exactly same symptoms but my PC (P4, 2.40 GHZ) did recognize my UTV Hd, but did it wrong, i checked with a couple of utilities and all of them report it damage, i do have a small utility that if some one want i'll glad to share that i know can get away the lock the UTV put on it but i have not give it a try cause i haven't a good disk all i had are broken, it's called low level format utility it's and old one but have successfully repaired disks for me the where damage, it even reported that my UTV HD have head problems.

hope this helps.
 

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I though my computer would have, at least, recognized it.
 

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I though my computer would have, at least, recognized it.
Yeah, definitely sounds like your controller board on the drive is fried. It's actually relatively easy to fix drives with blown up controllers by replacing the board with one from an identical drive, but it's probably not worth it for an old UTV drive.


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Hi Clip,


Please let me know if your hd worked in the UTV unit after you fixed it in your computor? And did you need to reinstall the software or did it work as is ?


I've been stuck in the Dial up webtv mode, when I reboot and unplug the ird it will run proberly for about an hour then it shuts down and reboots into the dailing to webtv mode.


I've read lots on the subject, but haven't figured out how to dial out from Canada or what numbers to dial.


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Hi Clip,


Please let me know if your hd worked in the UTV unit after you fixed it in your computor? And did you need to reinstall the software or did it work as is ?


I've been stuck in the Dial up webtv mode, when I reboot and unplug the ird it will run proberly for about an hour then it shuts down and reboots into the dailing to webtv mode.


I've read lots on the subject, but haven't figured out how to dial out from Canada or what numbers to dial.


TAZMann
The drive works fine but I did not put it back in the UTV; I'm keeping the new 120GB drive in the receiver.


It sounds like you could be having a real HD problem (or a heat problem). Replacing the HD is probably your best bet.


I can't help you with the Canada dialing thing.


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