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Ok i understand. I have to find my own whitepoiunt. Sounds very logical.As suggested above, you must first check the meter profile was successfully within tolerance. If you used Bondar (and did it correctly) it "should" be very accurately profiled. If it isn't then there is something wrong.
I Have done it this way. But for me the pictur looks to cool.
If the profile was successful and you whites look "off white" then it is due to metameric failure and you will require an alternate white point. As I said before, the one you mentioned is not really suitable for a 10nm Spectro such as the i1 Pro meters. If the two white points mentioned above do not look correct to you either, then you will need to find your own, and it is relatively simple to do once you understand the process.
What is metameric failure?
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Perceptual Colour Matching
Using LightSpace CMS to match displays that use Different Illumination Technologieswww.lightspace.lightillusion.com
If you don't have access to a Plasma or CRT display, you can use pretty much any standard gamut display that does not have narrow primaries and it will most likely give a better result "for your eyes". Even a standard notebook display can work (not all notebooks though, mine has an absolutely [email protected] display).
CorrectOk i understand. I have to find my own whitepoiunt. Sounds very logical.
1. I should find a reference screen which whitepoint i like.
2. then i set my new display manually at 90% IRE like my reference screen
3. After that i measure my whitepoint which i manually set on my new screen and take this coordinates as my new whitepoint.
That's entirely up to you. But if you go down that route, what was the purpose of getting your own Spectro? And if you are going to hire a Professional to just check the meter, then you may as well just either get him to either profile your meter to his, or the do the entire calibration for you with his reference gear making your meters redundant.Would you think i should get a professional calibrator to check if my i pro3 and the profiled idisplay pro are in line with the real professional spectrometer from a professional?
I've got an eizo monitor which color looks good for me.Correct
That's entirely up to you. But if you go down that route, what was the purpose of getting your own Spectro? And if you are going to hire a Professional to just check the meter, then you may as well just either get him to either profile your meter to his, or the do the entire calibration for you with his reference gear making your meters redundant.
This is all part of the fun (or frustration depending on how you look at it) of learning calibration. Learning to overcome the hurdles you bump into at every single turn.
If I were you (and I have been in this position and this is exactly what I did).....I would find a display that has a standard gamut (e.g. not wider than Rec709) and calibrate that to D65. Here is an example of a BenQ monitors Spectral scan that has near perfect 100% Rec709 coverage
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White is the solid colour, whereas the wireframe is the Primaries. White matches the sum of RGB almost exactly, and so this monitor could be potentially be used for perceptual matching
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As you can see, with WRGB OLED, White does not equal RGB, and that is why some people need an alternate white point.
Before you do all this though, you need to perfect your meter profiling process as described above, ensuring you can create a valid match between the two, otherwise all this becomes redundant.
No. You have to do all of the checking and verification yourself, by hand with the excellent tool - that's a very nice link, @thothNo i didn't verified with this tool. I didn't know it before. I will test it next week. But i thougt calman tells me if the profile is correct?
You still have to probe match on the OLED after you have perceptually matched a new white point. The only difference is you need to modify the white point for your colour space target (e.g. Rec709 with different coordinates for white).I've got an eizo monitor which color looks good for me.
but when i go the perceptual way i don't need to profile my i1Displaypro anymore. Because i set the the whitepoint manually on my new Screen an d measure this whitepoint. So thereis no matter if it's profiled or not because it takes my own whitepoint???
But it uses my own whitepoint as reference?You still have to probe match on the OLED after you have perceptually matched a new white point. The only difference is you need to modify the white point for your colour space target (e.g. Rec709 with different coordinates for white).
If you don’t probe match, you meter (i1d3) will still be inaccurate. You just literally modified the white point, nothing else.
It really isn't complicated.But it uses my own whitepoint as reference?
We need the panel to not transfer heat from the panel surface to the meter, as it will increase the S/N ratio.Ok, yesterday i profiled my i1Display Pro Plus with the display pro 3! I've done it by full contact before you answerd. So maybe I'll have to do it again.
But what makes me anoying is that everybody is doing full contact??? But logical a distance would be better to measure more pixels because of screen uniformity.
Since you have i1Display PRO and i1PRO3, use RAW XYZ and Bodner method for meter profiling.But what was really interessting was the differences betwenn the methods. It looks like the i1display pro, without a profile, in xyz is more acurate than with the fsi edr.
All measurements werde done in full contact expect 1b.
Now i know why the reds arer out of space. The TV has a bug. Sometimes I#ll have to swi´tch the colorgamut from auto to any other option and back. Than rec709 is activated and the reds are all in.
So what is better?
Tyler says in his Bodner Profiling Method tu use xyz.
Would you say to profile the i1Displaypro with fsi.edr would be better?
Murideo says it doesn't matter because the profile overrides the edr values.
Profile any display to have its own meter proofing correction when you have colorimeter and Spectro.I've got an eizo monitor which color looks good for me.
but when i go the perceptual way i don't need to profile my i1Displaypro anymore. Because i set the the whitepoint manually on my new Screen an d measure this whitepoint. So thereis no matter if it's profiled or not because it takes my own whitepoint???
We already went all through this, the other day. thoth give you a direct link to the method, from his post here Feedback on HCFR LG C8 OLED SDR Calibration .Hello,
can anyone help me and check if this ok?
Do you have any active 1D or 3D LUT table loaded to your TV, which you perform meter correction process?delete
Sorry my fault. I have forgotten to delete the picture...Do you have any active 1D or 3D LUT table loaded to your TV, which you perform meter correction process?
If you have performed manual calibration, you have to reset the picture mode for not having active any Grayscale/CMS adjustment.
Check the TV for not having any active enhancements or power, sensor, or color-related function.
Manual or Autocal?im having so many issues getting my gamma line to line up the issues are with 75-95% keep rising and dropping on there own an its hard to adjust the gamma when thats happing also 95% goes very high above 2.3 - 2.4 gamma all time really dont understand any help ?