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Few simple questions

1134 Views 15 Replies 7 Participants Last post by Bill, Aug 25, 2011

Shane R

Discussion Starter · Aug 21, 2011

1. Do you need a special HDMI cable to display 3D or will any HDMI work?

2. I have a very "entry level" insignia sound system that has a 3D ready receiver, are there different levels of quality when it comes to 3D or is it like you either have it or you don't and the picture quality is all that varies?

BTW, I have a 51" samsung 3D TV with the powered glasses that go with it and maybe I havent seen the right movies but after gnomio & Juliet, and Cloudy with a chance of meatballs both in 3D, I'm not impressed. I however do have a cheap receiver and just the same HDMI cables I've used for a few years, hence my asking

Thank you

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JOHNnDENVER

· #2 · Aug 22, 2011

Hard to say here....

Your 3D video was blurry without the glasses on?

Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs was pretty darn good on the 3D effects as I remember it on my system.

Don Landis

· #3 · Aug 22, 2011

Hook up your player directly to your monitor and see if that works to your satisfaction. If it does then the problem is whatever you had between the player and TV. If it still looks bad to you then maybe you aren't able to see 3D. A few people in the country have this problem that otherwise have normal vision. As long as your cable is the newer high speed cable it should work.

Not seeing and not being impressed are entirely two separate issues. One is a physical impairment and the other is a bad attitude, and is also known as buyer's remorse. Your home 3D results should equal or better what you see in the theater.

Justin-Dawson

· #4 · Aug 22, 2011

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Originally Posted by jasm /forum/post/20850964

yea you need a high speed 1.4 hdmi cable

100% incorrect. You need a high speed cable - that's it. When I say high speed, I mean you would be hard pressed to find an HDMI cable that isn't one. Don't get an expensive cable either, just buy a cheap one off of monoprice and it'll work great.

Richard Adams

· #5 · Aug 22, 2011

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Originally Posted by Don Landis /forum/post/20853624

Hook up your player directly to your monitor and see if that works to your satisfaction. If it does then the problem is whatever you had between the player and TV. If it still looks bad to you then maybe you aren't able to see 3D. A few people in the country have this problem that otherwise have normal vision. As long as your cable is the newer high speed cable it should work.

Not seeing and not being impressed are entirely two separate issues. One is a physical impairment and the other is a bad attitude, and is also known as buyer's remorse. Your home 3D results should equal or better what you see in the theater.

You sure about that Don? The newest theater Sony 4K projection systems project the two polarities at the same time from separate lenses. The most impressive 3D I've seen on the Sony 4K was Green Lantern. I could swear that movie was 2X better than HD.

Bill

· #6 · Aug 23, 2011

Yes, Christie's are doing 4k 3D with higher color depth. This is the only way I want to watch movies now, at the theater. Check out "Glee" or "Spy Kids", which were obviously shot with HD cameras and compare them to "Conan", what a difference! Now we need 4k TVs and 4K higher color depth BluRay. I'm not holding my breath. The 4K movies take up about 500 gigs. Even my wife who is no videofile is spoiled. When we ducked in to see a little of "Glee" she said "Is something wrong? It looks blurry."

Bill

· #7 · Aug 23, 2011

OP, just the 3D aspect should look about the same at home. If it doesn't something is wrong. I've tried some TVs that did bad 3D (crosstalk/ghosting). Don't know about yours. Also theaters use passive 3D.

Don Landis

· #8 · Aug 23, 2011

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Originally Posted by Richard Adams /forum/post/20854937

You sure about that Don? The newest theater Sony 4K projection systems project the two polarities at the same time from separate lenses. The most impressive 3D I've seen on the Sony 4K was Green Lantern. I could swear that movie was 2X better than HD.

Yes, Richard, I'm absolutely certain. Bigger screen by many a factor is not going to be fixed by just a 4K projector. I have not seen any large screen theater image that will be brighter and sharper with more detail than my Sony 90ES at home, especially in 2D. IMO- a 110" screen at 2K at home with BluRay is sharper and brighter than the 60 ft wide screen at 4K in the theater. I'll concede when they have a 4K system for the home. Until then I rate my home theater miles above any commercial movie theater. Even my sound system can be as loud a sound pressure level with only 4Kw of amps than the IMAX theaters that have 12Kw but often are so distorted it hurts the ears. At least I can set my levels to very loud and not be distorted. We last saw Pirates of the Caribbean at IMAX and it was disappointing from a technical presentation at IMAX 3D so I am looking forward to seeing it on 3DBD at home in the Fall.

Guess you should know I hate going to the theater anyway. I usually try to go Sunday mornings when there are very few people.

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Bill

· #9 · Aug 23, 2011

Don, you're missing out. I used to like my 73" TV better than the theater, no more. The Christies do 32,000 lumens with higher color depth. They are putting 8 megs of pixels on the screen. You just haven't been to the right theater.

Richard Adams

· #10 · Aug 24, 2011

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Originally Posted by Bill /forum/post/20855986

Yes, Christie's are doing 4k 3D with higher color depth. This is the only way I want to watch movies now, at the theater. Check out "Glee" or "Spy Kids", which were obviously shot with HD cameras and compare them to "Conan", what a difference! Now we need 4k TVs and 4K higher color depth BluRay. I'm not holding my breath. The 4K movies take up about 500 gigs. Even my wife who is no videofile is spoiled. When we ducked in to see a little of "Glee" she said "Is something wrong? It looks blurry."

LOL.

Since I didn't see these yet, do you mean Conan utilized the format best. What was it shot with?

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Richard Adams

· #11 · Aug 24, 2011

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Originally Posted by Don Landis /forum/post/20856096

Yes, Richard, I'm absolutely certain. Bigger screen by many a factor is not going to be fixed by just a 4K projector. I have not seen any large screen theater image that will be brighter and sharper with more detail than my Sony 90ES at home, especially in 2D. IMO- a 110" screen at 2K at home with BluRay is sharper and brighter than the 60 ft wide screen at 4K in the theater. I'll concede when they have a 4K system for the home. Until then I rate my home theater miles above any commercial movie theater. Even my sound system can be as loud a sound pressure level with only 4Kw of amps than the IMAX theaters that have 12Kw but often are so distorted it hurts the ears. At least I can set my levels to very loud and not be distorted. We last saw Pirates of the Caribbean at IMAX and it was disappointing from a technical presentation at IMAX 3D so I am looking forward to seeing it on 3DBD at home in the Fall.

Guess you should know I hate going to the theater anyway. I usually try to go Sunday mornings when there are very few people.

Lately I go anytime Tuesdays. This is when my local 10 screen theater with the Sony 4K 3D projectors has 3D showings all day for $8 bucks. I am willing to put up with the crowd due to the ticket price of my own small crowd...

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Don Landis

· #12 · Aug 24, 2011

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Originally Posted by Bill /forum/post/0

Don, you're missing out. I used to like my 73" TV better than the theater, no more. The Christies do 32,000 lumens with higher color depth. They are putting 8 megs of pixels on the screen. You just haven't been to the right theater.

How do you know what projector the theaters I go to are using?

Reddig

· #13 · Aug 24, 2011

Yes any high speed HDMI will work with 3D. Just seen The Smurfs 3D on a Sony 4k projector at the AMC at Disneyland in Anaheim. Absolutely flawless 3D and pq and even my wife was estatic over the incredible pq.

Reddig

· #14 · Aug 24, 2011

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Originally Posted by Don Landis /forum/post/20860875

How do you know what projector the theaters I go to are using?

You either poke your head into the projector booth and take a look or kindly ask a manager on duty.

Richard Adams

· #15 · Aug 24, 2011

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Originally Posted by Don Landis /forum/post/20860875

How do you know what projector the theaters I go to are using?

I noticed that the 4K Sony projectors at my local Regal theater have two simultaneous images that you can see by looking back at the projector from most seats in the theater. The two images are upper and lower.

THe two images are easily distinguished from the single projection 3D which must flash one field and then the other. The dual projector 4K doesn't flash. In other words, 4K has no "time multiplexing" flicker.

In contrast, the Imax 3D features a larger screen and massive sound system, but not a 4K dual projector. Still another feature is seats that move with the action scenes. This is more of a gimmick IMHO. I think they could support large screen and massive sound system with 4K, but the high price of the moving seats didn't seem all that worth it.

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Bill

· #16 · Aug 25, 2011

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Originally Posted by Richard Adams /forum/post/0

LOL.

Since I didn't see these yet, do you mean Conan utilized the format best. What was it shot with?

Don't know about best. It was way better than spy kids which was just HD. Conan seemed like a 4k transfer from film with it's higher color depth also. The Christie I saw it on has no trouble with contrast ratio. It is BRIGHT. No murkiness at all.

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