[midiboy]

Hi guys,


I have had strange issues lately with DVD menues.


Either they were completely disabled, meaning I could not choose anything by clicking on the items, items would not highlight when the mouse was over them and I could not even use the cursor keys to choose between items in a menu.


Or, on some menues, I was able to choose by clicking somewhere in between items or use the cursor keys.


In any way, this drove me crazy so I tried to find the solution. Tried all kinds of things and in the end I could narrow it down to the use of ffdshow as a post processing filter with resize enabled. Without ffdshow, those problems did not exist, neither in ZP, nor Media player classic or WMP10.


I then tried to look for a solution in ffdshow, but it did not matter which resize (1280x720 or double original res) values I chose. Also the resize algorythm did not matter.


So is this a known limitation that DVD menues are disabled when ffdshow is used as a resizer or is this a bug ?


Using the 2005-02-01 version by the way.


Thanks for your help,

Bye,

Alex

 

[midiboy]

PS:


It does not happen with all DVD´s by the way, some are still fine. But the DVE DVD is an example for the broken menue´s with ffdshow.

 

[jvincent]

I think it's a bug in ffdshow.


My symptoms are that when navigating menus, the image is not updated after the the FIRST arrow key. The focus has actually changed, it's just that the update is lost / eaten. After that everything is fine. Until I change screens to another menu page, in which case the update after the first navigation is again lost / eaten.


An annoyance to be sure, but not a biggie.


This is with TT and the 1012_sse2 build.

 

[Karnis]

There's something going on to be sure. My symptoms are:

Exit the movie to a menu.

No keyboard navigation. Press any arrow key a couple of times, nothing. But wait...
Let the menu music program recycle thru to the beginning. The keystrokes will then execute themselves, and arrow key navigation returns.

I thought it might be an nvidia decoder bug....

I use 0709sse_2 ffdshow

 

[midiboy]

Hi again !


Well, I am glad I am not the only one with this problem.


@Karnis:


No, it is definitely not an NVIDIA problem. I don´t have Theatertek but I tried the NVIDIA trial decoders, the Elecard decoders and the Dscaler 5 decoders in Zoomplayer and the problem remained on all three of them.


As soon as ffdshow was removed from the path, everything was back to normal.


I am a bit sad that this even happens with your rather old 0709sse_2 version. That one was geared towards HTPC resize users specifically if I remember correctly so this probably means that all version have had this problems.


which makes me wonder why noone ever noticed or said anything about that yet ?


jvincent:


Mhh, for some DVDs it is a biggy. I have no idea how to navigate the DVE DVD for instance. It is absolutely impossible with ffdshow in the path !


Other DVD´s are totally unaffected and work fine. Very strange.


I will post about this in the ffdshow development thread ... let´s hope for the best ....


Bye,

Alex

 

[TruckChase!]

*Bump*


Any progress on this?

 

[ImJacksAmygdala]

Hello, this is my first post at these forums and I hope I can help. I've been lurking for awhile, but I'm still new to the HTPC concept. When I read this thread it made me remember a guide I had read that had a fix for menus in media players like zoomplayer.


Here is a link to the guide. I can't link to the guide because of some stupid antispam filter untill I post 5 times. You can find the article using search for author: mpgxsvcd thread title: Simple Step by Step guide on how to setup an HTPC to a HDTV with dscaler and ffdshow!

Quote:

6. So here is where the fun begins. You all three programs installed but you don’t have the first clue as too how to use them. So here it goes. First off open the zoom player program by left clicking on the Start button then, click programs/zoom player/Zoom Player Pro. The Zoom player window should appear. If it asks you if you want to install the directsub vob filter then go ahead and follow the instructions to do that. Zoom player is a media player that is similar to Windows Media Player 10 except it is completely customizable. So let’s go ahead and setup our preferences. Right click in the middle of the Zoom player screen and then click options. Click on the settings button in the left hand menu and then check the VMR9 box under the Video Renderer section if you have at least a 3.0 GHZ P4 or an Athlon 64 3200+ or greater or click the Overlay Checkbox if you have a slower P4 or an Athlon XP. Also check the Show control bar on mouse movement, and remember window size on exit. Now, click the advanced button in the bottom left hand corner of the window. Click the control bar button. Select the “Media: Go to next†and the “Media: Go to Previous†options in the “Visible control bar buttons†section. Click the settings button and then select the “Force Menu Select†in the DVD mode section(This is to correct a problem with some poorly created menus). Then check the Play/pause option under the double click section. Now click the DVD button from the left hand menu. Then click the “customized (recommended)†button in the DVD menu. Select the VM9 Windowless option in the Renderer section. Click the add button in the additional filters section. Double click the “FFdshow Video Processor†filter. Now look at the Video Decoder and Audio decoder sections. You should see the Dscaler(No CSS) decoders there. You might also see other DVD decoders listed like ATI, Intervideo, Nvidia, or PowerDVD. Just select the Dscaler decoder in the Video decoder section. However, if you want to pass Dolby digital or DTS through the optical out port to your receiver you will have to choose something other than the Dscaler decoder from the Audio section. If you see the Intervideo WinDVD one choose that for Audio. If not choose the ATI one which should have been installed when you installed your ATI drivers. Now, click the External button from the left hand menu. Select the SP/DIF and Auto-Select for all of the decoders. Click both Apply Settings buttons. Now click the Manual Save button and then close the options menu. Next right click on the zoom player window and select full screen on/off. Then right click on the full screen Zoom Player and then click exit. I know you are dying to just try out a DVD but it won’t work yet. You need to configure ffdshow first. So let’s do that.

I think this fixes menu problems after post video processing using ffdshow with most media players. I might be wrong though, but I hope this helps.

 

[cyberbri]

If you think it's your version of ffdshow (ie., the July version), try the August or October version or something. The August 1st version is Andy's newest optimized one, and the October version (got it somewhere else) is also optimized for SSE(2?).

 

[hdkhang]

Yeah menu navigation is broke on some discs... but with ZP you can still navigate by right clicking and selecting titles and chapters for the DVE disc, you should have a quick list to help with navigation when you got DVE.


Cheers...

Duy-Khang Hoang