[dbldare]

I posted this over in the under $3000 projector area but maybe I'll have better results here.


I've seen on many flat panels the "film-like" image that they can produce. I'm not sure there's a better way to put it but it's almost as if people are floating across the screen as they move. What causes this? 1080p, 24Hz, 240 refresh rate??? I'm not sure where I stand with it yet but is there a projector that can reproduce this type of image?


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[betterdan]

If it is the higher refresh you are describing then it is not film like as film is 24fps.

I find the 120hz option on my tv rather odd looking. It makes the people stand out more to me or something. I was trying to describe what I felt to my wife and all I could say was it takes away the feeling of the camera moving in scenes and makes it feel like I'm moving instead, if that makes sense. Maybe if I watched it for a while like that I'd get used to it and like it.

 

[omeletpants]

People are often confused about the 120hz concept. There are two: the first is the refresh rate. Every TV refreshes at either 60, 120, 240, or 480hz. This is inherent in the design and cannot be adjusted.


The second 120hz refers to something called Frame Rate Interpolation (FRI). This is what gives the TV the soap opera or 3D effect. This can be turned off or adjusted. The manufactures make it easy to confuse the two and should have named it something else. This is not available on projectors. You can find more technical descriptions of this on Wikipedia


Some people don't like the FRI but in surveys here most do after they have used it awhile. If you don't like it just shut it off. IMO, it took me a week to get used to it and now I wouldn't have a set without it.

 

[dbldare]



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Originally Posted by betterdan /forum/post/19601682


If it is the higher refresh you are describing then it is not film like as film is 24fps.

I find the 120hz option on my tv rather odd looking. It makes the people stand out more to me or something. I was trying to describe what I felt to my wife and all I could say was it takes away the feeling of the camera moving in scenes and makes it feel like I'm moving instead, if that makes sense. Maybe if I watched it for a while like that I'd get used to it and like it.

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Originally Posted by omeletpants /forum/post/19601725


People are often confused about the 120hz concept. There are two: the first is the refresh rate. Every TV refreshes at either 60, 120, 240, or 480hz. This is inherent in the design and cannot be adjusted.


The second 120hz refers to something called Frame Rate Interpolation (FRI). This is what gives the TV the soap opera or 3D effect. This can be turned off or adjusted. The manufactures make it easy to confuse the two and should have named it something else. This is not available on projectors. You can find more technical descriptions of this on Wikipedia


Some people don't like the FRI but in surveys here most do after they have used it awhile. If you don't like it just shut it off. IMO, it took me a week to get used to it and now I wouldn't have a set without it.

Thanks guys! That's just what I was "looking" for. I'm with you on, I'm not sure if I like it or not, but it does seem to give the image a more 3D effect. I'd like to see it on a larger screen (100" on up).


I have a 42" (720p-600Hz) Panasonic plasma. Is FRI limited to 1080p sets?


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[specuvestor]

You may want to find out more info in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1285072


Suffice to say that MCFI or FRI is not essential for your plasma

 

[Neptune76]

This feature was essential for me and the very reason I bought a new tv. LOVE it


You feel like you're right there


It makes dreaded cgi look real too

 

[dbldare]

Thanks again for the replies and the link! Answered my question perfectly.




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