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Hi all,


This may have been posted before or may be more obvious to some but here is where you can get the PDF about this stuff *AND* more importantly where you can get it locally (by putting in your zip). I called them and they/she said Oh I can tell you just let me get to the internet...back the truck up...I said point me there please. (I only found the PDF by using advanced google search on the JM domain a few nights ago).


Go to this page:
http://www.jm.com/insulation/commerc...interior.shtml


Go to this section:

Acoustics and under 'Theatre and Studio'


Clicking on 'Coated Insul-SHIELDâ„¢ Black fiber glass rolls' and clicking on the 'Where to buy' dot on the right will bring up a page for you to enter your zip.


Hope that helps,
 

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Thanks Scott,

This was one of my next steps, I was going to call around and find who carries this. However you saved me from a little work. I just did a printout to my nearest provider locations.


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Don
 

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Absolutely Don. Glad to help out as all you have helped me a time or two or three...


BTW, in my calling around the locals and distributors, at least in the Chicagoland area, don't carry the Insul-SHIELD black and have to make a fairly large order of it. Ironically one of the guys said that he can get the Theater Shield stuff instead!! I may do that. Either will make me happy.
 

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Hi Scott,

Have you heard what the Insul-Shield black is selling for? One place quoted me $1.28 a square foot. Does this sound about right, or is this a little high?


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for the TS+about 275.00 to 300.00 for 100`roll,

i would guess the isul-shield to be about the same,


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The Theatre Shield in chicagoland area is/was about $380 for a 4'x100'x1" roll. Now keep in mind they (dealer) was being charged extra for some special shipment and they seemed to pass it on.


The Insul-SHIELD I as quoted at about $38 / sheet so that is $38/(4x8).


How much does paint cost again :eek: ?
 

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Scott,

I ordered my TS+ through my local Lowes Home Improvement store. It cost $290 for the 4'x100'x1" roll. When I ordered JM had just announced that they were discontinuing the product, but they still had plenty in stock. That was about 3 weeks ago. Lowes had it shipped with their weekly stocking order, so it did not cost any extra for shipping. The price I was quoted for the Insul Shield (the replacement) came out to the same price as the TS+. Good Luck.
 

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Keith,


Thanks for the heads up. I should check with my local HD/Menards to see if they carry JM products which would imply they could get TS I guess. I do know that another local HT guy (Hi Frank) had trouble locating TS as well and I thought ended up paying about $380.


I'll pay that if it comes to it. In the grand scheme it's not that much more over budget than my other HT areas :(
 

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HD carries JM,not sure if they will order TS+ though,but check.


if you can get the TS+ for 380.00,go for it.although not the best price,an extra 80.00 for what you need won`t break ya I'm sure:)

and knowing it`s in your house will give you plenty of better ZZ's at night:)


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Hi Scott,


I ordered mine from a specialty store in Bensenville. The roll was $252 + tax. It was not TS+ but the Owens equal. I have the store name at home and can supply name and phone number later. The roll comes in a 6 Ft by 72 Ft roll. If anyone needs some, I have a least half a roll left I would sell. Local only to pickup.


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Thanks Frank. Are you talking about "Owen - SelectSound Black Acoustic Board"?

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JM (Johns Manville) - Coated I/S Black
http://www.jm.com/insulation/product...LD_HIG_597.pdf

Thickness Frequencies (Hz)

(in)(mm) 1 25


0125 0250 0500 1000 2000 4000 NRC***

0.09 0.29 0.67 0.89 1.03 0.99 0.70


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Owen - SelectSound Black Acoustic Board
http://www.owenscorning.com/around/s...s/BLACKAC1.PDF


Product Type Density Octave Band Center Frequencies, Hz R-Value

& Thickness pcf (kg/m 3 ) Mounting 1" Mat faced 3.0 (48) A


0125 0250 0500 1000 2000 4000 NRC (hr•ft 2 •F)/Btu

0.06 0.25 0.62 0.91 0.99 0.98 0.70 4.3
 

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Thanks. They seem pretty comparable as well.

http://www.owenscorning.com/around/s...s/BLACKACO.PDF


Here are the numbers for it:
SelectSound Black 150B 1.5 (24) 1 (25)

.. 0125 0250 0500 1000 2000 4000 NRC (hr•ft 2 •F)/Btu

1" 0.10 0.34 0.64 0.87 0.91 0.91 0.70 4.2


Blanket 2 (51)

.. 0125 0250 0500 1000 2000 4000 NRC (hr•ft 2 •F)/Btu

2" 0.27 0.80 1.12 1.07 1.02 1.01 1.00 8.5
 
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