Blu-ray enthusiat as I am or not, I think all analysts don't know jack.
Positive or negative, they seem to always be wrong.
Positive or negative, they seem to always be wrong.
forrester also says that Blu-Ray will win (again)
Untill now all analysist say that BLU-RAY will win, all IT companys support it and produce devices...
Blu-ray Disc Will Still Beat HD DVD
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=2925
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Blu-ray Disc Will Still Beat HD DVD
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=2925
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| We haven't changed our mind since October 2005, when we predicted that Blu-ray would win a pyrrhic victory over HD-DVD for the next generation of DVDs. To track the market's development, market researchers should begin charting five "blue laser market indicators" based on data, including blockbuster titles in each format, DVD-playing game console sales and attach rates to HDTVs, PCs with blue laser drives, blue laser players available at retail and sold, and positive mentions in the press. |
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From the description (a pyrrhic victory) it sounds like the predictions are mostly negative on both formats. Not that I want to pay $250 to found that out.
Unfortunately Forrester and other analyst firms like them have a very poor record when it comes to prediction. I work with IT analysts all the time and am amazed at their lack of information and/or reality. They mostly rely on PR and articles in popular magazines.....top investment bank analysts tend to be better somewhat. JMHO.
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At the moment. those indicators are not a slam dunk for Blu-ray.
| To track the market's development, market researchers should begin charting five "blue laser market indicators" based on data, including blockbuster titles in each format, DVD-playing game console sales and attach rates to HDTVs, PCs with blue laser drives, blue laser players available at retail and sold, and positive mentions in the press. |
Tht is too funny.
Pay me $249 and I'll tell you that we think Blu-ray is still going to win.
They must be completely disregarding sales data. Unless actual sales figures are ignored in their study?
Pay me $249 and I'll tell you that we think Blu-ray is still going to win.
They must be completely disregarding sales data. Unless actual sales figures are ignored in their study?
My magic 8 ball said "cannot predict now". I will shake it again later for confirmation.
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If you count the preorders of BLU-RAY devices hd dvd it totally outnumbered. They say that hd dvd have no future maybe because no one will actually have an hd dvd player in the future...
| Originally Posted by Mark0 Tht is too funny. Pay me $249 and I'll tell you that we think Blu-ray is still going to win. They must be completely disregarding sales data. Unless actual sales figures are ignored in their study? |
If you count the preorders of BLU-RAY devices hd dvd it totally outnumbered. They say that hd dvd have no future maybe because no one will actually have an hd dvd player in the future...
and what 'IT' companies support HD-DVD? Microsoft? Intel? there nothing compared to Apple's (3% market share) and that almighty font of innovation Dell!
I still say there is no reason why both formats can't co-exist as we have with video game consoles.
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Was that English?
| Originally Posted by DaveBG02 If you count the preorders of BLU-RAY devices hd dvd it totally outnumbered. They say that hd dvd have no future maybe because no one will actually have an hd dvd player in the future... |
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Well one thing is for sure. We will have this BLU-RAY format in the future.
For the hd dvd, i cant say, but you guys here at AVSForum have done a lot to save this format so i think that it will also live (at least fo the next 1-2 years)...
| Originally Posted by Dr Kain I still say there is no reason why both formats can't co-exist as we have with video game consoles. |
Well one thing is for sure. We will have this BLU-RAY format in the future.
For the hd dvd, i cant say, but you guys here at AVSForum have done a lot to save this format so i think that it will also live (at least fo the next 1-2 years)...
These guys should work in Washington. When they don't like reality thay just make it up and tell people what they want them to think. As always, such talk is cheap and it is certainly not worth getting excited about. All the talk in the world will not make a success out of something the buying public does not accept.
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This is true, but then again I have a DCC recorder and a friend of mine still has a Betamax. They are both still useful as recorders and playing back older material.
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| Originally Posted by DaveBG02 Well one thing is for sure. We will have this BLU-RAY format in the future. |
Hey Blu-Ray may "win", but that doesn't necessarily mean the consumer will. 
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Why? Blu-Ray is better than hd dvd in anything except the price. But the price is falling down every day
| Originally Posted by DigVid Hey Blu-Ray may "win", but that doesn't necessarily mean the consumer will. |
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I agree.
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No, it's not better than HD DVD in anything except the price. So there, I win that debate.
| I still say there is no reason why both formats can't co-exist as we have with video game consoles. |
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| Blu-Ray is better than hd dvd in anything except the price |
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Very curious about this claim. What IT companies & what devices are you talking about ?
| Originally Posted by DaveBG02 all IT companys support it and produce devices... |
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Correct. Blu-ray players will be $499 in just over a month however
| Originally Posted by DaveBG02 Why? Blu-Ray is better than hd dvd in anything except the price. But the price is falling down every day |
Forrester also predicted HDTV wouldn’t catch on: "Digital TV will catch on, but expensive high-definition pictures won't.†Not sure what that says about their Blu-ray predictions..
"In the end, Forrester concluded that manufacturer investment and production costs will keep high-definition set prices in the $2,000 range for the next 10 years, and only one million households—or 1 percent of U.S. homes by today's count—will own a high-definition set in 2003."
"However, Forrester predicts a bright future for standard-definition digital sets, which display digital pictures but not in the highest resolution. These sets, according to Forrester, will capitalize on picture and sound quality superior to today’s analog sets, at a fraction of the cost of their high-definition cousins."
So Forrester predicted HDTV’s would stay in the “$2,000 range for the next 10 years� Good thing manufacturers didn’t heed that prediction.
They also missed the “one million households - or 1 percent of U.S. homes by today's count - will own a high-definition set in 2003." by about 1.5 million units…
http://www.satbiznews.com/digi10.html
http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/10320/
"In the end, Forrester concluded that manufacturer investment and production costs will keep high-definition set prices in the $2,000 range for the next 10 years, and only one million households—or 1 percent of U.S. homes by today's count—will own a high-definition set in 2003."
"However, Forrester predicts a bright future for standard-definition digital sets, which display digital pictures but not in the highest resolution. These sets, according to Forrester, will capitalize on picture and sound quality superior to today’s analog sets, at a fraction of the cost of their high-definition cousins."
So Forrester predicted HDTV’s would stay in the “$2,000 range for the next 10 years� Good thing manufacturers didn’t heed that prediction.
They also missed the “one million households - or 1 percent of U.S. homes by today's count - will own a high-definition set in 2003." by about 1.5 million units…
http://www.satbiznews.com/digi10.html
http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/10320/
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| Originally Posted by cityscapex5 and what 'IT' companies support HD-DVD? Microsoft? Intel? there nothing compared to Apple's (3% market share) and that almighty font of innovation Dell! |
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| HD DVD is promoted by Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo, Microsoft, Hewlett Packard, Intel, among others. In terms of major studios, HD DVD is currently exclusively backed by Universal Studios and The Weinstein Company (through Genius Products) and is non-exclusively backed by Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros., New Line, HBO, DreamWorks, Image Entertainment, Magnolia Pictures, Brentwood Home Video, Warner Music Group, Ryko, Goldhil Entertainment, and Studio Canal. |
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