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Hell, if I could end my 'moby dick' style hunt for a good way to capture a monitor screen as video in a clear way[oposed to blury s-video] I'd have probably made 80 videos by now.
If you know a way, oh god please tell me. I don't care if it takes two boxes to do it or requires buying some less-than-$300 hardware. Perferibly just two boxes, or one box. whatever does the trick. I say two boxes cause I envision one box longing into the other one 'Desktop Connection' style and captureing the video stream, and the other box (the one logged into) running the software I'm trying to demo.
pls lemme know if you have any ideas how to do this
cow
If you know a way, oh god please tell me. I don't care if it takes two boxes to do it or requires buying some less-than-$300 hardware. Perferibly just two boxes, or one box. whatever does the trick. I say two boxes cause I envision one box longing into the other one 'Desktop Connection' style and captureing the video stream, and the other box (the one logged into) running the software I'm trying to demo.
pls lemme know if you have any ideas how to do this
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This is a tutorial for those who don't have a DVR. And actually, when the Panasonic Showstoppers came out, they did have a 20-30 minute tutorial that was preloaded on the machine.
| Originally posted by shaber Why even have a DVD? I always wondered why the makers of the RTVs didn't just preload a tutorial onto the drives in the machines. They could probably even push it out to existing machines via IVS. |
This is a tutorial for those who don't have a DVR. And actually, when the Panasonic Showstoppers came out, they did have a 20-30 minute tutorial that was preloaded on the machine.
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icecow,
If I'm following you here, you are wanting to capture screen activity to a video (e.g. to record a demo of what DVA can do). This occurred to me earlier today also, and I think it is a great idea.
I recently discovered a product that will do exactly what you want. It is called CamStudio. It was freeware but was bought out and turned into less functional bloatware then killed off (see this for a summary of what happened). Thus, the only version worth having is 2.0, which is somewhat hard to find. You can still grab it here . The CamStudio 2.0 version is really nice because it can record to Shockwave Flash (SWF) format, which is great to put up small clips on the web. This feature was removed from the 2.1 version (after the buyout), despite the program increasing in size by like 400%.
There is also a CamStudio lossless codec that is supposed to be good for capturing. It is also hard to find, but you can get it here .
Get to making some videos!
[EDIT - fixed link to the lossless codec (I hope). Turns out that the site doesn't permit direct links to the file, so you'll have to click the link from that page to download it.]
| Originally posted by icecow Hell, if I could end my 'moby dick' style hunt for a good way to capture a monitor screen as video in a clear way[oposed to blury s-video] I'd have probably made 80 videos by now. If you know a way, oh god please tell me. I don't care if it takes two boxes to do it or requires buying some less-than-$300 hardware. Perferibly just two boxes, or one box. whatever does the trick. I say two boxes cause I envision one box longing into the other one 'Desktop Connection' style and captureing the video stream, and the other box (the one logged into) running the software I'm trying to demo. pls lemme know if you have any ideas how to do this cow |
If I'm following you here, you are wanting to capture screen activity to a video (e.g. to record a demo of what DVA can do). This occurred to me earlier today also, and I think it is a great idea.
I recently discovered a product that will do exactly what you want. It is called CamStudio. It was freeware but was bought out and turned into less functional bloatware then killed off (see this for a summary of what happened). Thus, the only version worth having is 2.0, which is somewhat hard to find. You can still grab it here . The CamStudio 2.0 version is really nice because it can record to Shockwave Flash (SWF) format, which is great to put up small clips on the web. This feature was removed from the 2.1 version (after the buyout), despite the program increasing in size by like 400%.
There is also a CamStudio lossless codec that is supposed to be good for capturing. It is also hard to find, but you can get it here .
Get to making some videos!
[EDIT - fixed link to the lossless codec (I hope). Turns out that the site doesn't permit direct links to the file, so you'll have to click the link from that page to download it.]
Well, j.m.'s got a good solution to the cow's question. The real problem with cameras on the monitor is the sync the two syncs aren't in sync will get you the tears and such. TV studios have variable sync cameras that can be adjusted to match the display they are trying to capture.
On another note... I was curious if anyone would ever want the intro video from the 3k line. It's about 700MB and I've got a copy on CD, I was thinking of uploading it to the image server site in case others wanted it. But I never looked into this.
On another note... I was curious if anyone would ever want the intro video from the 3k line. It's about 700MB and I've got a copy on CD, I was thinking of uploading it to the image server site in case others wanted it. But I never looked into this.
I've been downloading camtasia, from time to time, for years. It was always a few levels too inadequate. After I wrote that post I downloaded it yet again. On my athlon mobile 2000+ laptop it was looking better. If I get an athlon 2800+ and a good videocard it might work out. I've also been meaning to get around to making a ram disk and set camtasia's temporary file to the ram disk. If it works well a few gigs of ram would make for a capture studio.
CamStudio looks promising. It's leaner and that might just bridge the chronic gap of inadaquacy.
I still wish I could figure out a hardware solution. The no hastle factor, the reliability would free up my mind to persue projects. The software capture programs bog down at resolutions of 1024 x 768 or higher.
The resolution of a television is a major barrier too. I've been longing for HD TV for years for different reasons then most people. It will make tutorial videos into completely different beasts.
A 800x600 resolution will be closer to a TV's resolution, but is a laughable resolution to demonstrate computer software. As HD TV gains acceptance I get eager again to capture pc screens. Ideally, a resolution of 1024 x 768 (or bigger) on a HD TV with extra room on the sides for things such as a virtual keyboard with keys that light up as the demonstator presses the corrisponding keys on his real keyboard. That way the learner could 'instant replay' and slow mo through sensitive areas and study carefully. HD TV will also offer an accidental synergy. People could sit on couches with laptops and watch tutorials on a HD TV with a HD ReplayTV(or equivlant). It's a great combination. No fighting with screens popping over each other. Instant replay, slow mo all you want, and see a dang 1024x768 screen on the TV. Think of all the photoshop, ect, ect tutorials that could be made. HD will totally change tutorials as we know them. yada yada [place a bunch of crap here that doubles the size of this 'paragraph']
Oh, jim. the link you left for the codec took me to an amiga site. I found some codecs but it didn't seem the lossless one was there. I searched for it on google and found many links to that codec, but all bad links. If you know how to manuver to the codec, please gimme another link to it.
I think I forgot to say 3 out of the 5 things i meant to say. oh well
cow
CamStudio looks promising. It's leaner and that might just bridge the chronic gap of inadaquacy.
I still wish I could figure out a hardware solution. The no hastle factor, the reliability would free up my mind to persue projects. The software capture programs bog down at resolutions of 1024 x 768 or higher.
The resolution of a television is a major barrier too. I've been longing for HD TV for years for different reasons then most people. It will make tutorial videos into completely different beasts.
A 800x600 resolution will be closer to a TV's resolution, but is a laughable resolution to demonstrate computer software. As HD TV gains acceptance I get eager again to capture pc screens. Ideally, a resolution of 1024 x 768 (or bigger) on a HD TV with extra room on the sides for things such as a virtual keyboard with keys that light up as the demonstator presses the corrisponding keys on his real keyboard. That way the learner could 'instant replay' and slow mo through sensitive areas and study carefully. HD TV will also offer an accidental synergy. People could sit on couches with laptops and watch tutorials on a HD TV with a HD ReplayTV(or equivlant). It's a great combination. No fighting with screens popping over each other. Instant replay, slow mo all you want, and see a dang 1024x768 screen on the TV. Think of all the photoshop, ect, ect tutorials that could be made. HD will totally change tutorials as we know them. yada yada [place a bunch of crap here that doubles the size of this 'paragraph']
Oh, jim. the link you left for the codec took me to an amiga site. I found some codecs but it didn't seem the lossless one was there. I searched for it on google and found many links to that codec, but all bad links. If you know how to manuver to the codec, please gimme another link to it.
I think I forgot to say 3 out of the 5 things i meant to say. oh well
cow
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I edited my original post to contain a revised link. If that still doesn't get you there, let me know.
| Originally posted by icecow I found some codecs but it didn't seem the lossless one was there. I searched for it on google and found many links to that codec, but all bad links. If you know how to manuver to the codec, please gimme another link to it. |
Thanks j.m. CamStudio is a top contender of the methods Ive figured out so far. and the lossless codec is a must, a double cherry on top.
It compels me to tell you something I have sucessfully tried. In the past I've had problems capturing video of Photoshop(or any cpu intense program) because the capture program also wants to use alot of resources. To solve this problem used XP Pro's Desktop Connection to make a two box system. One one box I run Photoshop, and camtasia on the other box. I log into the box with photoshop running, and operate photoshop remotely from box2. Box2 runs camtasia and captures it. works pretty good.
I just thought I'd run over that tidbit because I believe I remember that you are running a Desktop Connection setup (do you have a fleet of computers you log onto too I wonder), and because you--also--seem jazzed about CamStudio.
The only thing is I was doing it with a duron 800 and a duron 1000. (I still got a small aging fleet of 5 ~1GHz duron computers. Unfortunately, I got school busy and moved alot over the last few years and never got to use them much, grr) Anyway, I think it should work well when I make my next Frys Ad ECS Motherboard based computer, whenever that is, hopefully soonish.
OT problem: Anyone's comments appreciated
At my 'shoebox' apartment I only have one 1.3 duron computer set up as a fileserver/download server/ReplayRadio server/MP3 Server. It has two soundcards and plays doubles as my sterio controlling speakers ~10 feet away. I like it, but It seems to be having problems.. it's slugish(not because of downloads). I think it was in the time period that the AMD chips had the raised cache that gets squished by the heatsinc. It works fine playing music and all of it's other chores but sometimes the screen moves in a slow mode sort of way like its totally bogged down(even when i'm not running anything). I have no idea what would make a computer behave like it does.
cow
It compels me to tell you something I have sucessfully tried. In the past I've had problems capturing video of Photoshop(or any cpu intense program) because the capture program also wants to use alot of resources. To solve this problem used XP Pro's Desktop Connection to make a two box system. One one box I run Photoshop, and camtasia on the other box. I log into the box with photoshop running, and operate photoshop remotely from box2. Box2 runs camtasia and captures it. works pretty good.
I just thought I'd run over that tidbit because I believe I remember that you are running a Desktop Connection setup (do you have a fleet of computers you log onto too I wonder), and because you--also--seem jazzed about CamStudio.
The only thing is I was doing it with a duron 800 and a duron 1000. (I still got a small aging fleet of 5 ~1GHz duron computers. Unfortunately, I got school busy and moved alot over the last few years and never got to use them much, grr) Anyway, I think it should work well when I make my next Frys Ad ECS Motherboard based computer, whenever that is, hopefully soonish.
OT problem: Anyone's comments appreciated
At my 'shoebox' apartment I only have one 1.3 duron computer set up as a fileserver/download server/ReplayRadio server/MP3 Server. It has two soundcards and plays doubles as my sterio controlling speakers ~10 feet away. I like it, but It seems to be having problems.. it's slugish(not because of downloads). I think it was in the time period that the AMD chips had the raised cache that gets squished by the heatsinc. It works fine playing music and all of it's other chores but sometimes the screen moves in a slow mode sort of way like its totally bogged down(even when i'm not running anything). I have no idea what would make a computer behave like it does.
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I think it might be kind of cool to see it and it might do some good for a few techo-novice friends that are now ordering RTV's.
Jeff, if it's simpler for you (and youre willing to go through the effort), I'll cover your costs (duplication & shipping) for a copy.
| Originally posted by Jeff D On another note... I was curious if anyone would ever want the intro video from the 3k line. It's about 700MB and I've got a copy on CD, I was thinking of uploading it to the image server site in case others wanted it. But I never looked into this. |
I think it might be kind of cool to see it and it might do some good for a few techo-novice friends that are now ordering RTV's.
Jeff, if it's simpler for you (and youre willing to go through the effort), I'll cover your costs (duplication & shipping) for a copy.
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I can send you a copy, but just the mpeg, I'm not going to make it into a DVD (or should I?...) if you want the MPEG on a CD PM me your address.
| Originally posted by rm -rf *.* I think it might be kind of cool to see it and it might do some good for a few techo-novice friends that are now ordering RTV's. Jeff, if it's simpler for you (and youre willing to go through the effort), I'll cover your costs (duplication & shipping) for a copy. |
back in the direction of the thread ... a demo of RTV may not be a strong seller, it looks complicated and unintuitive at first.
No one seems terribly interested in selling them anyway, I've yet to see a store that has any idea what they do, other than "like Tivo".
No one seems terribly interested in selling them anyway, I've yet to see a store that has any idea what they do, other than "like Tivo".
So I was making a copy of the video for one of you guys and I watched it, or more like listened to it.
It's from the 3k line and there are some very important features that were discussed, things you just foget about. Pressing play to slow-mo (I forgot about that, I always pause and step through scenes).
Then there's the guaranteed vs non-guaranteed and prioritizing of shows and conflict resolution. Man that could have saved me problems long ago.
It's from the 3k line and there are some very important features that were discussed, things you just foget about. Pressing play to slow-mo (I forgot about that, I always pause and step through scenes).
Then there's the guaranteed vs non-guaranteed and prioritizing of shows and conflict resolution. Man that could have saved me problems long ago.
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When I got my original 2020 it came with an instructional show that was pretty good. Walked you thru all the commands and features. You could keep it for a while, then delete when you needed the space.
| Originally posted by shaber Why even have a DVD? I always wondered why the makers of the RTVs didn't just preload a tutorial onto the drives in the machines. They could probably even push it out to existing machines via IVS. |
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It's been discussed here before, but Replay filmed that show with amazing quality. Maybe it was the lighting, or the pretty woman that was instructing us, but I remember when I first watched it, that it was DVD quality.
I don't know if they played this at any retail stores, but I know it would have gotten me to pause (no pun intended) and take notice.
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I don't know if they played this at any retail stores, but I know it would have gotten me to pause (no pun intended) and take notice.
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One of the ReplayFolk once mentioned that it wasn't done in any special way. The instructional video was shot on 3/4" UMatic and was a direct transfer. The reason it looked so good is that it was analog all the way before it got digitized by the Replay.
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