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Have any of the manufacturers announced a 1st generation player that supports ALL of the new format's advanced features (such as the new audio formats)? It would seem that if standards have been set someone should be able to produce a deck that has full support built in from the start. Obviously the technology is available to some degree, otherwise they couldn't have set the standards. Or could they? :confused:
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Have any of the manufacturers announced a 1st generation player that supports ALL of the new format's advanced features (such as the new audio formats)? It would seem that if standards have been set someone should be able to produce a deck that has full support built in from the start. Obviously the technology is available to some degree, otherwise they couldn't have set the standards. Or could they? :confused:
There is a lot of speculation that Sony is delaying there player until mid-August to address the audio issues. I have no definitive proof just heresay. I sure hope so.
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There is a lot of speculation that Sony is delaying there player until mid-August to address the audio issues. I have no definitive proof just heresay. I sure hope so.
Would be pretty sweet if Sony decided to put either DTS-HD or Dolby True HD decoders in the player and had a few 50GB discs soon after with an HD track on there.


Would be very smart too. They could easily tout this advantage over HD-DVD, give Blu-ray that complete "next generation product" appeal, and even semi-justify that steep price tag.
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Obviously the technology is available to some degree, otherwise they couldn't have set the standards. Or could they?
there is no chips built yet that can handle 7.1 of the lossless codecs
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2nd generation ,there should be announcements probably around CES time early next year
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There is a lot of speculation that Sony is delaying there player until mid-August to address the audio issues. I have no definitive proof just heresay. I sure hope so.
Me too ... I wanted to believe that Sony was going to delay their offerings until:


- They had a "true" 1080p display device at consumer level (SXRD);

- They had a "true" player that would "max" the spec;

- They had a "true" receiver that could switch all the audio ****;


2/3 are announced ... still waiting for the 3rd . I sure hope that the BD group (most of Japan, other than Toshiba) is learning from the failures of the Toshiba "soft" intro.


Anything other than that will introduce consumer confusion. If you don't think that, just check out the -10db DTSA audio threads from the experts here. J6P:'s want an assurance that when they walk into a BB, they can buy a compatible set of HD crap. Today? not going to happen. A year+ now, it will :)
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there is no chips built yet that can handle 7.1 of the lossless codecs
DTS-HD is a lossless codec and Toshiba has a chip in the HD-1.
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Me too ... I wanted to believe that Sony was going to delay their offerings until:


- They had a "true" 1080p display device at consumer level (SXRD);

- They had a "true" player that would "max" the spec;

- They had a "true" receiver that could switch all the audio ****;
I would also hope they insure the products interoperate with each other. It would seem like a no brainer, but history shows more often than not each product is built in a vacuum by different teams. The marketing guys try to pull it all together as a product portfolio, but typically there are low level details that make the products as a suite fail.


i.e. Sony's current low priced SXRD front projector can't accept 24p over HDMI. Their higher priced version won't even accept 1080p (without a $3,000 mod - not sure if it's still available). Then there's JVC who marketed their 1080 HD VCR with their 1080 HD projector. The VCR had "next generation digital video outputs w/ copy protection - firewire". Input side on the projector had "next generation digital video input with copy protection - DVI". Hello? It wasn't until the 3rd generation that they finally released DVI outputs on the VCR.
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Would be pretty sweet if Sony decided to put either DTS-HD or Dolby True HD decoders in the player and had a few 50GB discs soon after with an HD track on there.
DTS has never licensed a stand-alone player for decoding one of their codecs. They believe that should be done by a receiver. The Blu-Ray players will allow the codec to be selected and pass the bitstream on to the receiver.
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DTS-HD is a lossless codec and Toshiba has a chip in the HD-1.
No it doesn't. You need a player with HDMI 1.3 to output DTS HD over 7.1 channels.
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