Mark stated several times that he doesn't use Eminence LAB 15 stock drivers - but a highly customized version of it. Eminence keeps the LAB 15 in its portfolio so that some basic components (like moving parts) keep getting produced for Marks needs.
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Originally Posted by countryWV /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/300#post_22626332
In order for an apples to apples comparision we need to consider the $$$ value. I would expect a $3000 (shipped) subwoofer (soon to be $3300.) to test better than a $2350 (shipped) subwoofer.
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Originally Posted by countryWV /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/300#post_22628164
After rereading the above posts I really do not know which is which
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/300#post_22628094
Not trying to split hairs and put too fine a point on your above, a Funk, 18.0C with upgraded Amp and cloth grill, is $2,150.00. Shipping is included.
My online research shows the 18.0C performs about 3dB better than a SubMersive HP which consists of two 15" drivers and in my opinion, the 18.0C has more style when all and all is considered.
And my above is not a knock of any kind at the SubMersive HP's. Competition is grand and consumers get to take benefit of quality competition.
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Originally Posted by polizzio /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/300#post_22628906
On line research is just that. As much as I admire the FA products and their gorgeous cabs, the Submersive HP has placed first or second at any of the premier big dog GTGs posted here, especially the blind audition GTG comparos, over like 4 or 5 years. I haven't seen a FA sub tested or compared at a recent GTG yet. Projected data and modeling is just that......projected. Spend $2400 for a Sub HP delivered and your done, with a very proven product and support. Mark Seaton designs and produces some of the best high end subs......history and real world testing proves this.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1367811/subwoofer-shootout-subwoofer-roundup-url-lists
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Originally Posted by polizzio /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/300#post_22628906
On line research is just that. As much as I admire the FA products and their gorgeous cabs, the Submersive HP has placed first or second at any of the premier big dog GTGs posted here, especially the blind audition GTG comparos, over like 4 or 5 years. I haven't seen a FA sub tested or compared at a recent GTG yet. Projected data and modeling is just that......projected. Spend $2400 for a Sub HP delivered and your done, with a very proven product and support. Mark Seaton designs and produces some of the best high end subs......history and real world testing proves this.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1367811/subwoofer-shootout-subwoofer-roundup-url-lists
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Originally Posted by countryWV /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22630925
That is why it is damn near impossible to compare his FA 18.0 to the Subm HP. They are for different people and different situations. When a consumer has to make a choice as to which one to go with in comes the comparision. Whether valid or not a choice has to be made.
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Originally Posted by countryWV /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22631104
Please accept my apologies for our misunderstanding.
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I had to make this choice on which one to go with myself.
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Originally Posted by countryWV /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22631104
I had to make this choice on which one to go with myself.
Exactly. You got that right!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeMan458 /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22631157
Thanks as based on what I had posted, it sure came across as a backhanded comment.
And I fault no one for their choices. At their price point, JTR, SubMersive and Funk Audio are top-dog contenders with, in my opinion, neither being the better of the other as each has their own design and as you stated, serve different purposes.
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Even though I have a pair of SubM HP'S I still think about the FA18.0 and the Cap S2 everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve1981 /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22631241
They're certainly making things more interesting now with their expanded offerings. If the 18.0C and 18.1 had been around when I was looking, I'd have definitely given them a second (and probably a third) look.
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Originally Posted by countryWV /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22631265
I would like to own them all !!
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Originally Posted by countryWV /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22631265
Even though I have a pair of SubM HP'S I still think about the FA18.0 and the Cap S2 everyday.
I would like to own them all !!
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Originally Posted by Steve1981 /t/1283555/funky-waves-audio-official-thread-prebuilt-and-custom-subs/330#post_22631398
I know how that goes. My PB13U gives me more than enough output for my tastes/lifestyle (which is fairly mild mannered next to a lot of the guys on this forum), and yet I still spend plenty of time ogling other subs. It's like women; once you've seen one naked....you want to see all the rest (maybe not all...)![]()