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Further Evidence the Momentum is Changing?

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I often hear people mention how many people are frequenting the various areas of AVS and thus this gives us a look at which format is currently "ahead." I personally treat these type of patterns much like the data we receive from such places as thedvdwars.com/Amazon or DVDEmpire.com. I think they are accurate in showing "trends."


I also feel AVS is very lopsided in HD-DVD's favor. This is fine, I just feel this site attacts a larger number of HD-DVD supporters vs. Blu-ray supporters. However 5 minutes a go I made a jpeg of the current visiting members. Look at the Software sections:




~Josh
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first!!

I really don't think this shows anything.


Now that CES is over Blu-ray talk is down.

The HD-DVD forums seem to still be practicing some serious damage control after what went on at CES.
Lately the conversation in the BD sections has been dead, while there seems to be some indignation, panic, and outright silliness in the HD-DVD sections. I've been checking in there just to see what's going on post-CES.
I noticed this as well when I logged in just now. Usually Blu-ray has only 1/2 to 2/3 the visitors of the HD DVD forums. This is very interesting. However, not to get too excited, I think we should see if this trend maintains and grows over time. It is a pleasent change, I'll admit that.
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There's a lot more movies to talk about in BD now than the past. I think fundamentally, the negative atmosphere of mudslinging made the normal public who only wants to watch talk think movies stay away.


If we only talk about movies, pink rectangles or what nots, I think people will feel better about posting and asking questions.


Before, ask a question and you get bombarded with people trying to convince you to go to their side. It was getting downright irritating to read these posts.


FWIW, hdgamedb.com has very interesting tools. I was tracking the sales last 14 days of the dual releases (both HDDVD and BD) of several titles, WTC, Superman Returns etc. The statistics you get on these sales rankings and how they are trending is quite consistent.


Even Warner titles that are released first on HDDVD and later on BD are pretty much showing this behavior. The only one that bucked the trend was Ant Bully, everything else seemed to be pointing in one direction.


--- And this in spite of BD titles consistently being out of stock at amazon.com.
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A driving factor these past few days seems to be the numerous p-o-r-n discussions that are attracting people in droves to the HD-DVD Players and Software forums!
Have I missed the point? The screenshot shows twice as many visitors to the HD DVD forums, and if that's how it is normally then what's the point?
That is indeed a first!
I'm not exactly sure what the OP's intent really is but he seems to be pointing out that there are 122 people viewing the HD-DVD Software forum but a greater number (+2 = 124) viewing the BD Software forum. IMHO, 122-124 viewers with a 2 viewer difference isn't much of sample size from which to derive a trend. But, if you look at the Players forums there are twice as many viewing HD-DVD than BD.

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Have I missed the point? The screenshot shows twice as many visitors to the HD DVD forums, and if that's how it is normally then what's the point?

You must have missed the point. In the OP I said look at the software sections of each format. Blu-ray was ahead in members in that gallery. I had not seen that before on AVS (have scene it on other A/V sites though). My opinion is that this could be another sign that the momentum of this war has shifted to Blu-ray's favor.


~Josh
He meant that more people are viewing the BD software forums than HDdvd software forums. Makes sense. There is alot more software coming out on BD than HDdvd.

Also interestingly there is a thread titled,


HDdvd owners: What will you do now that CES is over?


with options like, Switch to BD, buy both or stay the course.


No similar thread in the BD forums asking what owners will do because I'll bet all the BD owners are grinning like kids on Xmas morning with all the new software announcements.



but what do I know...?


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No similar thread in the BD forums asking what owners will do because I'll bet all the BD owners are grinning like kids on Xmas morning with all the new software announcements.



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I Know I Am



~Josh
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me too!


And bias, war aside. I am honestly surprised. I was pretty nervous jumping in at this time. I have owned a Betamax, a DAT machine. I know what it's like. I really thought Universal would announce a helluva lot of awesome titles that would make me insanely covet-y. I really honestly did. I don't know what they're thinking and if I were an HDdvd owner, (and I almost was if that Adam/Eve bogus offer had gone through!) I would seriously be asking what's up? Content is king after all...

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me too!


And bias, war aside. I am honestly surprised. I was pretty nervous jumping in at this time. I have owned a Betamax, a DAT machine. I know what it's like. I really thought Universal would announce a helluva lot of awesome titles that would make me insanely covet-y. I really honestly did. I don't know what they're thinking and if I were an HDdvd owner, (and I almost was if that Adam/Eve bogus offer had gone through!) I would seriously be asking what's up? Content is king after all...


I agree that "Content Is King." I mean when you really look at us AVS member who debate this format war, we are all basically the same kind of people, we love all things Audio and Video.


The HD-DVD supporters feel that greater Hardware support and a slow and steady release of software will win the war.


The Blu-ray supporters feel that greater Software support and a blizkrieg of software releases will win war.


I personally subscribe to the latter because history repeats itself and software has always been the deciding factor. I do not see history changing this time around. Blu-ray just has too much Exclsuive Studio Support.


~Josh
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normally hd-dvd has twice as many, hence the momentum change comment....

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normally hd-dvd has twice as many, hence the momentum change comment....

Exactly My Point.


~Josh

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I just did the same:


And I was just about put my HD-A1 on ebay after seeing those two additional visitors...
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And I was just about put my HD-A1 on ebay after seeing those two additional visitors...

How much wil you pay me to take it off your hands?
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