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All things being equal, is there a noticable difference in the two? I never listen at reference level, and will be using these for 98% movies/TV.



I'm about to pull the trigger on a new LCR so any help/direction/advice would be appreciated.


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Assuming your setup is in-room and not behind an AT screen- I'd probably favor the F8 Center for the aesthetics. F10 Center looks kinda' funny out in the room IMO, and if you're crossing over at ~80hz, I don't see where you'd get much real-world benefit from bumping up to F10's.

One thing you might give some thought to is the HTM's. HTM-10's have the 12" waveguide, which might carry some benefit over the F8's depending upon seating distance, how wide your seating area is and how far apart your L/C/R will be. You'd be back to having a kinda' funny-looking center if you're not behind an AT screen, though.
 

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I am using a Cap 2400 for my sub, and Audyessy has crossed my current LCR at 80. I have looked at the HTM-6's. My LCR will not be behind a screen, so I think that the HTM-10's will be overkill.
 

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I am using a Cap 2400 for my sub, and Audyessy has crossed my current LCR at 80. I have looked at the HTM-6's. My LCR will not be behind a screen, so I think that the HTM-10's will be overkill.
If they aren't going behind a screen, fusion 8 LCR will be a great choice for you.
 

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I'm very happy with my F8's. Though I could squeeze 1099 behind the screen so I might sell them soon or maybe try to make them into 3-ways. I need to build something new, its addictive. I cross at 120hz


That looks fantastic. Did you consider the F8 Center?
 

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That looks fantastic. Did you consider the F8 Center?


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No, a horizontal center is not as optimal (same sound signature but the horizontal center would not have the same dispersion characteristics) as a matching lcr. Since they are going behind a screen I was able to make them all match. If they were out in the open I would have gone with a horizontal center. If you are going to use the horizontal center Id go with the towers to keep the sensitivity the same.
 

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No, a horizontal center is not as optimal (same sound signature but the horizontal center would not have the same dispersion characteristics) as a matching lcr. Since they are going behind a screen I was able to make them all match. If they were out in the open I would have gone with a horizontal center. If you are going to use the horizontal center Id go with the towers to keep the sensitivity the same.

I can't use the towers (height issue). We always sit directly in front of our center channel, so I am thinking of matching LCR.
 

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Do you have a screen with a projector or is this a TV type setup with a console? Telling us about the space would help with how we respond.

TV set up. I dont know the exact measurements, but its an average size living room. Maybe 20 x 15 with a cathedral ceiling that slopes toward where I sit.
 

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TV set up. I dont know the exact measurements, but its an average size living room. Maybe 20 x 15 with a cathedral ceiling that slopes toward where I sit.


With a TV I'd try the fusion8's in stereo with a phantom center then build the horizontal center if the sound was lacking. I think the horizontal would be worth the compromise for a TV because it'll look better that three matching lcr.

Whatever you do, be mindful of the designer of the series your looking at because each designer has a "voice" for their speakers. It's like their signature. The fusion 10 are designed by tuxedocivic and fusion 8 are designed by Jeff Bagby. Jeff also designed the maximus12 and the fusion12's and the Quarks and others.
 

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With a TV I'd try the fusion8's in stereo with a phantom center then build the horizontal center if the sound was lacking. I think the horizontal would be worth the compromise for a TV because it'll look better that three matching lcr.

Whatever you do, be mindful of the designer of the series your looking at because each designer has a "voice" for their speakers. It's like their signature. The fusion 10 are designed by tuxedocivic and fusion 8 are designed by Jeff Bagby. Jeff also designed the maximus12 and the fusion12's and the Quarks and others.
Hey. That brings me to a question.
I understand about different designers having their signature “ voicing “. And, since I’be never heard any DIYSG speakers, I don’t know which “ voicing “ would suit my tastes best.
Would you mind giving a personal opinion on the “ voicing “ differences between the speakers that you have experience with ? I’m in the process of trying to plan my soon to be home theater and info like this would help a lot I think.
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Jeff's speakers tend to roll off the highs more than tux's and mtg's. I've never heard any of tux's kits but the responses look similar to mtg's. I would say the fusion 8 kits are the easiest to listen to for extended periods like hours. Likely due to the softer highs. But the brighter speakers seem better for movies with clearer intelligibility and dynamics.
 

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Jeff's speakers tend to roll off the highs more than tux's and mtg's. I've never heard any of tux's kits but the responses look similar to mtg's. I would say the fusion 8 kits are the easiest to listen to for extended periods like hours. Likely due to the softer highs. But the brighter speakers seem better for movies with clearer intelligibility and dynamics.
Thanks for the info. Which DIYSG speakers do you have experience with ?
Tux is Ryan correct ?
 

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I have owned
Fusion 8
Fusion 8 tower
Fusion 8 center
Fusion 15
88 Special
Volt 6

Tux is Ryan.

All great speakers that I would recommend to a friend.
 

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I bought some fusion 10's off a member and have loved them. 10s or 8s, you'll be happy.

I went to see jurassic world fallen kingdom Thursday and it's the first movie I ever walked out of and said "that sounded like garbage".

The 8s are probably a safe bet as well, it depends on your future though. If a AT screen is in your future I'd buy/build for that.
 

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Yes @trilkb. I will have an AT screen ( size TBD ).
@Samps, how do the Fusion 8 and Fusion 8 Towers compare ? Do the Towers just get louder with less strain, or do they play somewhat lower frequencies better ?
I have contacted Matt about possibly going with a larger enclosure for certain speakers to give them more full range capability. I’d like the Front Left & Right to be satisfying for music listening without a sub if possible.
 
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