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Future Proof Pre-Wire

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Hello - I have been reading many topics regarding a/v prewire that refer to older threads that detail what cables must be run to specific locations around the home (computers, TVs, keypads, etc) to ensure a cable friendly future.


I have utilized the search function to the best of my ability, and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.


I know you guys probably get this post every few weeks, so I apologize in advance
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The best future proof way is to run conduit such as smurf tube everywhere. Then you can always run additional cable when you need to. See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=901909 for example.
Do an advanced search on this forum for the word "future" in the title and you'll come up with 10 threads with a few good ones.
Thanks a lot.


By the way, as for the conduit you guys call smurf tube, you can buy it at electrical whole sale stores from 1/2" up to probably 2".


I imagine the pricing would be better than Home Depot if you talk to the counter guys.

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Originally Posted by crutschow /forum/post/16868510


The best future proof way is to run conduit such as smurf tube everywhere. Then you can always run additional cable when you need to. See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=901909 for example.

+1

It's the only way to be sure.
Lot's and lot's of Cat5e or Cat6.
If you haven't read this already, this guide is really helpful:

http://www.cocoontech.com/forums/ind...ds&showfile=64


It gave me a lot of ideas on wiring during my remodel, which is almost done now. You have to register at the site to download the guide.


--Mohit.

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Originally Posted by mohitk /forum/post/16873040


If you haven't read this already, this guide is really helpful:

http://www.cocoontech.com/forums/ind...ds&showfile=64


--Mohit.

+1 - great resource


search this subforum for "new construction" + prewire


search the cocoontech.com forum


If you don't have the time, hire someone knowledgable (references) to consult.
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Originally Posted by BradKas /forum/post/16871524


Thanks a lot.


By the way, as for the conduit you guys call smurf tube, you can buy it at electrical whole sale stores from 1/2" up to probably 2".


I imagine the pricing would be better than Home Depot if you talk to the counter guys.

Smurf Tube can accomodate 110v cables. If LV only, buy the orange Carlon Resi Gard, save a few dollars.


Some electrical inspectors may not be familiar with the orange Resi Gard - pick up the phone before installing.

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Originally Posted by Neurorad /forum/post/16874469


Smurf Tube can accomodate 110v cables. If LV only, buy the orange Carlon Resi Gard, save a few dollars.


Some electrical inspectors may not be familiar with the orange Resi Gard - pick up the phone before installing.

What string is the best to use for pulling cables in Smurf Tube?


Do you guys use the vacuum trick or run the wire as you add each 10' section in place?
Usually, one runs the new wire next to the conduit, during installation.


The conduit is for adding wiring after the walls are closed.

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Originally Posted by Neurorad /forum/post/16876238


Usually, one runs the new wire next to the conduit, during installation.


The conduit is for adding wiring after the walls are closed.

Sure, I meant, do most people on AVS put a string in the conduit (for pulling cable runs later) or just leave and worry about getting the "new" cable point a to b when the need arises?
Thanks for all the great resources.

Basically I am electrician doing high end homes and renovations hoping to stop just pre- wiring all this stuff, and giving the real money making work (install and supplying the equipment) away to LV guys.


The electrical industry is quite stagnant as far as "new" products - sure many things are improved upon, but the options are absolutely limitless with A/V distribution and smart home wiring.


Most long time electricians are too old school to show any interest so us young bucks are going to have to change industry standard.
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Originally Posted by Neurorad /forum/post/16874469


Smurf Tube can accomodate 110v cables. If LV only, buy the orange Carlon Resi Gard, save a few dollars.


Some electrical inspectors may not be familiar with the orange Resi Gard - pick up the phone before installing.

Just to clarify, tube is the way to go, but don't want any noobie thinking they can run new 120V and low-volt in the same tube. It is either one or the other in the tube at a time. To do otherwise would not be to code. Same goes for conduit (and holes in your 2x4 for that matter...)


Best,


Carl
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Originally Posted by gjvrieze /forum/post/16877307


Sure, I meant, do most people on AVS put a string in the conduit (for pulling cable runs later) or just leave and worry about getting the "new" cable point a to b when the need arises?

Oh. I installed my conduit as 1 long continuous run, not in sections. I didn't leave the pull string in place.


The conduit came with a very strong, slippery, long flat pull 'rope' inside of it, but I pulled it out before installing. My runs are pretty stright shots, basement to attic.


My Carlon LV orange Resi Gard conduit had a 5 inch slit in each end of the conduit, and the pull rope was tucked into the slit, when I bought it. I think this pull string is rated to something like 800 pounds.
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