[Upinit]

I've been wanting to purchase the complete series DVD collection of Star Trek: The Next Generation for some time but I wonder if I would regret it if they ever release it on Blu-Ray.


My question is would a TV show that old have an upgrade in video quality worthy of the price one would pay on Blu-Ray? Should I get the DVD set or wait for it on Blu-Ray? Thanks for your opinions.

 

[42041]

depends on how well they transfer it... it was shot on 35mm, so it could theoretically look very good. I don't think crappy old HD masters of that show exist so I'm guessing it'd look pretty good if they have to transfer it on modern equipment.

 

[MovieSwede]

Next genration was shoot on film, but edited and postworked on 480i tapes.


For a BD release, they must rescan the orginal film, reedit and make new special effects. That would cost alot of money and could never happen.


So if you really want Next Generation today, you could buy the DVD.

 

[troglobite]



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could never happen.


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If that's true, why would Amazon make a Blu-ray placeholder for Star Trek TNG the series?

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Next.../dp/B0019NG7SQ

 

[Stinky-Dinkins]

They make generic placeholders for just about everything to increase traffic to their site.


If you Google search TNG on Blu Ray Amazon is one of the very top results. It gets you to the site... maybe encourages you to poke around a little bit.


The placeholder pages are also there so they can give you a place to sign up to be notified when Amazon gets official word something is going to be released on the format (hence the preorder section being replaced by a "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available" button.)

 

[FoxyMulder]



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Originally Posted by MovieSwede /forum/post/16839407


Next genration was shoot on film, but edited and postworked on 480i tapes.


For a BD release, they must rescan the orginal film, reedit and make new special effects. That would cost alot of money and could never happen.


So if you really want Next Generation today, you could buy the DVD.

They might well redo the effects in HD. It's costly but i can see them dipping their toes in the water and perhaps releasing a few related episodes to see if the interest is there.


Also consider that with television moving into the HD arena it would actually be in their interests to do this for HD syndicated repeats. Advertising revenue alone could pay for the costs as repeats do get them a lot of money. New fans are born every year and this would be a way of getting new interest in an old show.


Yes i think it will happen.

 

[MovieSwede]



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Yes i think it will happen.

I think it can happen, but the question if you should wait until they actually do this, depends on how much you want to see the episodes.


There still is a risk that they dont gonna remaster them in HD.

 

[surap]



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Originally Posted by Upinit /forum/post/16839184


I've been wanting to purchase the complete series DVD collection of Star Trek: The Next Generation for some time but I wonder if I would regret it if they ever release it on Blu-Ray.


My question is would a TV show that old have an upgrade in video quality worthy of the price one would pay on Blu-Ray? Should I get the DVD set or wait for it on Blu-Ray? Thanks for your opinions.

The shows that you should avoid is the shows that was recorded with an "ordinary" video-cam that records with "dvd" quality(480p/576P). im shure IMDB can provide such information. I dont know if there are such shows that is transered on to Blu-Ray. I wouldnt do that...

I bought Star Trek TOS. Some shows are truly wonderful regarding picture quality. I remember when Spock was on a planet and inhailed some spour(spoors..?) from a flower and goofed around. Very strong colour and very sharp.

 

[Big J]

As already mentioned, they would have to basically redo the masters. Its alot of work and time/money. Now, they DID redo TOS, and it looks pretty good (the Gorn blinks). If TOS sells well on BD, they might consider TNG.

J

 

[MovieSwede]



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As already mentioned, they would have to basically redo the masters. Its alot of work and time/money. Now, they DID redo TOS, and it looks pretty good (the Gorn blinks). If TOS sells well on BD, they might consider TNG.

J

The difference was that TOS was edited on film. It will take alot more work re-edit TNG.


But of any videoedited TV show, would get this type of rematering, TNG would be my bet.

 

[DavidHir]

I think it will eventually happen for sure. Why not just rent the episodes on DVD for now?

 

[Jedi2016]

I keep hearing rumblings that they're going to go back and rework them, but you're definitely correct in that it will be a massive undertaking. They'll have to go back to the original film negatives, and effectively re-do all of the post production. Editing, effects, the works. The downside is the time and money involved.. the upside is that it would probably look absolutely gorgeous.


One question would be whether they would consider reformatting the show for 16:9 widescreen.

 

[Josh Z]



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One question would be whether they would consider reformatting the show for 16:9 widescreen.

They kept The Original Series in 4:3. I see no reason to expect otherwise for The Next Generation.

 

[joemama127]



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Originally Posted by 42041 /forum/post/16839220


depends on how well they transfer it... it was shot on 35mm, so it could theoretically look very good. I don't think crappy old HD masters of that show exist so I'm guessing it'd look pretty good if they have to transfer it on modern equipment.

Yep, it all depends on the quality of the original and then how they do the transfer. 2001 A Space Odyssey is 40 years old but looks/sounds better on BD than many releases that are less than 5 years old....or even newer. Another good example is Forbidden Planet which from the 50's and looks really good for it's age. (HD-DVD that is..don't know if it's on BD yet)

 

[TonyDP]



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They kept The Original Series in 4:3. I see no reason to expect otherwise for The Next Generation.

There were three remastered versions of TOS made of every episode:


(1) live action and CG effects both at 4:3

(2) live action at 4:3, CG effects at 16:9 (some of these were briefly available on Xbox Live; I even dl'd Space Seed and it was indeed in this format).

(3) live action cropped to 16:9 with matching 16:9 effects (primarily for foreign markets like Japan, the TrekMovie.com website even had some pics of this version).


The other factor to consider in any potential TNG remastering project is the number of episodes. The original series only ran for three seasons whereas TNG was on the air for seven seasons so there will be a lot more shows to work thru.


Also, the TOS CG remasters were fairly straightforward as most effects were either standalone shots or rotoscoped onto the forward viewscreen (the camera on those viewscreen shots was usually locked into one position also making life easier). TNG had lots more live action sequences featuring dynamic effects involving elements like aliens and lengthy phaser fights.


Maybe a good compromise would be to start off by redoing some of the more effects heavy episodes like Best of Both Worlds or All Good Things to gauge market reaction and see if a more extensive remastering job is warranted.

 

[Josh Z]



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Originally Posted by TonyDP /forum/post/16849006


There were three remastered versions of TOS made of every episode:


(1) live action and CG effects both at 4:3

(2) live action at 4:3, CG effects at 16:9 (some of these were briefly available on Xbox Live; I even dl'd Space Seed and it was indeed in this format).

(3) live action cropped to 16:9 with matching 16:9 effects (primarily for foreign markets like Japan, the TrekMovie.com website even had some pics of this version).

The Blu-rays are 4:3. We were talking about a potential release of TNG on Blu-ray.

 

[giantchicken]

I just don't see this happening any time soon--they would have to go back to the drawing board in so many ways, I just don't see how it could end up being cost effective. The demand wouldn't support the price they would have to charge. I can see one or two sets of themed favorite episodes getting recreated, but seven seasons worth of remastering?