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1.) What's up with the Heroes connection? I counted three people in the pilot who were in Heroes: Jayma Mays (Charlie on Heroes); Jessalyn Gilsig (Claire's mom on Heroes); Stephen Tobolowsky (Elle's dad on Heroes); Dianna Argon (Debbie on heroes, I think also a cheerleader on Heroes from Claire's HS and a cheerleader here)...maybe there is a common producer?


2.) Not sure about this "innovative" strategy of airing a pilot during May sweeps and then starting the season in the fall. I like the idea of putting it post-AI, but it might have been better served to run with AI. I'm thinking Glee will suffer because of this strategy, but of course they'll probably reair in the pilot in the fall before starting the rest of the season.


3.) Seems like it will appeal to all the teen and tween girls who watch AI, but does it have it broader appeal? Not sure.
 

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I'm 39, my wife is 39, we've never watched a minute of "American Idol" and we are lamenting the fact that there won't be another episode of "Glee" until September. We thoroughly enjoyed it. Funny, biting and a bit sentimental. Oh and Jane Lynch. God do we love Jane Lynch.
 

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Oh and Jane Lynch. God do we love Jane Lynch.

We loved the line about "And you think water boarding is hard?"


I have already put this show in the record cue on the DVR. This is a winner. It has winner written all over it.
 

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My wife and I watched it as well. She liked it a lot better than I did. It's basically a tv version of any number of movies featuring the same plot: the underdogs...in this case a glee club....must work hard and somehow beat the "good" school......combined with the teacher who nearly gives up on them....combined with the "popular kid" who must decide whether to follow his heart (glee club) or popularity (football team). Throw in the cliche b1tchy cheerleaders/popular girls, the super-mean jocks, and the over-the-top nerds/unpopular kids.


I thought the whole thing was very cliche and had a nearly complete "been there, done that" feel to the entire show.


However, I tend to despise those types of "underdog" movies, so having a drawn out TV series revolving around the same old tired themes doesn't appeal to me anyways, so I'm pretty biased.


That being said, there were a couple funny parts in it, but not enough to make me interested in continuiing to watch it. My wife is though.
 

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The pilot reminded me of Election that starred Matthew Broderick in a similar role as the teacher on this show. That movie was a bit more subversive than this show. I did not laugh out loud a lot, but I did like the dynamic of the show.
 

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My wife and I really enjoyed it. Like pappy, I quickly caught the Heroes folks all over the place (although I missed the cheerleader.) Victor Garber (Alias, Eli Stone) and Kristen Chenoweth (Pushing Daisies) will have recurring roles in the series so I'm looking forward to that as well. I certainly had the common "underdog" plot, like mproper and spid said, but it was completely watchable, and the music was great.
 

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I also caught the similarities to "Election", especially with the way they gave introspectives on each of the character's home lives.


Did anyone else catch the fact that Stephen Tobolowsky's character's last name was "Ryerson"? Can't hardly be a coincidence.
 

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my wife and i liked it. it has alot of potential and is definitly very good for a pilot. the actors looked like they werent completly imersed(sp) in there roles yet so this show can only get better.


Plus the songs were good and i heard a Queen song in the background!!! lol
 

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I was reminded of Election too, but also American Pie with the jock football guy in Glee being the Chris Klein character (Lacrosse player?) in the original American Pie movie. Both were singers who were well known at their school for being athletes.
 

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My wife and I really enjoyed it. Like pappy, I quickly caught the Heroes folks all over the place (although I missed the cheerleader.)

The cheerleader was a cheerleader in Glee too, the abstinent GF of the football player/singer. I just knew she looked familiar and looked it up. I'm just thinking 4 people from Heroes, even though none of them were regulars, has to be more than a coincidence.
 

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As a former National Runner-Up Glee Clubber myself, I can relate to this show on a different level. My high school experience was pretty much dead on to these kids. I thought the show was fantastic, and can see the whole "Friday Night Lights/American Dreams" comparisons that media critics are giving it. I have a feeling this show is going to get word of mouth reviews going for it. I already know of about 20 people who have set Season Passes for it already. Can't wait until fall.
 

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It was pretty good, although I did find it a bit unrealistic that all these kids got so good so fast. Would have been kind of funnier if they mostly sucked and they really had to work at it and we saw them gradually improve over the season. On the first episode they're sounding/playing Journey just like off the record.



In any event I liked that there were a lot of comedians involved with the show too.
 

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I'm surprised that Drumline hasn't been made into a series. That one I might watch having been a drummer and line instructor myself.

Yeah, with 11 years of marching band from Jr. High to college, I would watch a Drumline-based series too.
 

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I liked it. It's good to see Ryan Murphy back in the high school setting. He did Popular many years ago which seesawed from absolutely dismal - those life lessons episodes ordered by the network executives - and absolutely unhinged, looney episodes (I still remember the episode about mullets). My main issue with the premiere of Glee is that it seemed highly compressed; everything develops too fast. I wouldn't be surprised if the shooting script and first cut was for a 90-120 minute pilot but plans changed later and they had to do some brutally efficient editing. They did a nice job under the circumstances but the cutting shows.


It's good to see some hard working Broadway actors like Lea Michele and Matthew Morrison on TV. I've seen both of them on stage - Michele in Spring Awakening, Morrison in South Pacific - and it's nice to see them find some TV success.
 

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High School Musical redux, anyone? Doesn't it seem obvious that this show taps into the same vein, and hopes to capture the same audience demo?
 

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Of course it's obvious, I don't think they tried to hide it. On the other hand, it does seem to be a little more, well Fox, and not as Disney, if you know what I mean. More subversive, a little more snarky.
 

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Fame meets Mr. Holland's Opus... In a good way..
 
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