[mafiaboy01]

Hey guys, looking for some advice on going from 5.1 to 7.1


I've read up on the differences etc. and would like to upgrade.


I have an idea in mind and was wondering if I could get some feedback.


I've posted some pictures of my current setup. I was hoping to add the speakers into the ceiling for the 7.1.


Polk Audio In-Ceiling Speaker (SC50i)


That's the speaker I was planning to use.


My setup currently consists of an older sony speaker system I had (sounds fine to me), a klipsch sub, and a Pioneer VSX-1020-k Receiver.


Let me know what you guys think.

 

[ambesolman]

I don't think the ceiling speakers are gonna do much with your rears in their current positions. They are where channels 6 & 7 are supposed to go, maybe a little closer together. Adding 6 & 7 above 4 & 5 as they are will screw up any directionality as far as surround sounds. Is there any way you can move those or put you ceiling speakers in the walls to your sides?

 

[mafiaboy01]

Ya thats kinda they problem, there aren't any walls on the sides so its hard to put speakers there. I guess I could put some on stands but still not ideal.


I was thinking of having the current ones as the back surround, and adding the ones above as the l/r surround, but I guess having them up won't work because they should be at ear level correct?

 

[4DHD]



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Originally Posted by mafiaboy01 /forum/post/20793466


Ya thats kinda they problem, there aren't any walls on the sides so its hard to put speakers there. I guess I could put some on stands but still not ideal.


I was thinking of having the current ones as the back surround, and adding the ones above as the l/r surround, but I guess having them up won't work because they should be at ear level correct?

If you put a pair of side surrounds in the ceiling, at the edges of the room, you would want a pair that can be rotated, so they are aimed at the seating.

 

[mafiaboy01]

Okay that sounds like a good idea, do you have any speakers that would do the trick in mind? Ill look around for soemthing that might work.


A quick search came up whither these

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-478


They have an angle so they don't throw the sound straight down.

 

[stevensctt]

Since your receiver supports Dolby Pro Logic IIz, consider adding front height speakers instead of adding two more to the rear.


In-wall, in-ceiling or wall mounted speakers could be used, the in-ceilings least desirable but will work.

 

[mafiaboy01]



Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensctt /forum/post/20794503


Since your receiver supports Dolby Pro Logic IIz, consider adding front height speakers instead of adding two more to the rear.


In-wall, in-ceiling or wall mounted speakers could be used, the in-ceilings least desirable but will work.

Well from what I've read its more beneficial to have the extra surround speaker than the height channel.

http://www.fcsurplus.ca/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=96414


These seem more directional.

 

[schan1269]

I would do front height before 7.1...


But if you must do 7.1, you must not have heard of this type of speaker mount...
http://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Black...734951&sr=8-25


You present speakers should be 6/7 if you do move to 7.1.

 

[stevensctt]



Quote:
Originally Posted by mafiaboy01 /forum/post/20794606


Well from what I've read its more beneficial to have the extra surround speaker than the height channel.

http://www.fcsurplus.ca/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=96414


These seem more directional.

I don't agree. Think it depends on the room but your room/set-up will benefit more from the added front speakers.


Many choose to use directional speakers or to aim rear and surround speakers to the listening position. I prefer to have the rear/surround and heights not aimed since the sound is diffused and creates a more spacial, realistic and open effect.


Just my opinion on the above based on my own experience.

 

[4DHD]

Here is a JBL angled 3-way.
http://www.jbl.com/EN-CA/Products/Pa...spx?PID=LS360C

 

[4DHD]



Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensctt /forum/post/20794672


I don't agree. Think it depends on the room but your room/set-up will benefit more from the added front speakers.


Many choose to use directional speakers or to aim rear and surround speakers to the listening position. I prefer to have the rear/surround and heights not aimed since the sound is diffused and creates a more spacial, realistic and open effect.


Just my opinion on the above based on my own experience.

But with in-ceiling speakers, if they are not angled, the audio can sound as if its coming from outer space. I noticed that years ago in a model home setup. They were playing Norah Jones DVD and her voice was coming from the sky. Not good at all.

 

[stevensctt]



Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DHD /forum/post/20794708


But with in-ceiling speakers, if they are not angled, the audio can sound as if its coming from outer space. I noticed that years ago in a model home setup. They were playing Norah Jones DVD and her voice was coming from the sky. Not good at all.

That's true for 2CH listening and maybe true for multi-channel music listening (little to no experience with this). But for HT -- surrounds, rears and heights should not be aimed (IMO) although some do prefer aiming.

 

[4DHD]



Quote:
Originally Posted by stevensctt /forum/post/20794804


That's true for 2CH listening and maybe true for multi-channel music listening (little to no experience with this). But for HT -- surrounds, rears and heights should not be aimed (IMO) although some do prefer aiming.

I use all identical monopole speakers all around and prefer that way.

 

[mafiaboy01]



Quote:
Originally Posted by schan1269 /forum/post/20794663


I would do front height before 7.1...


But if you must do 7.1, you must not have heard of this type of speaker mount...
http://www.amazon.com/Pinpoint-Black...734951&sr=8-25


You present speakers should be 6/7 if you do move to 7.1.

Ya those mounts look good, what kinda speakers would you guys recommend, not looking for super high end but something decent. What kinda speakers should I look for to work with the mounts?