[Pierdobek]

Here is my struggle.


I got a used SoundOn WHT-510 5.1 Channel Wireless Home Theater System. 5 speakers plug in to power and wirelessly transmit signal to the main unit that is also a center speaker. Inputs 1 and 2 have selectable modes: stereo, pro logic II music and pro logic II movie. Input 3 is marked 5.1 DVD


My system consists of DTV H23 HD receiver and Mitsubishi WD60C9 DLP TV.

DTV and TV are connected with HDMI.


SoundOn has 3 inputs in the back:

- pair of Audio RCAs (white and red) - input 1

- another pair of Audio RCAs (white and red) - input 2

- 5.1 DVD (6 white and red RCA's: L, R, Ls, Rs, C and SUB) - input 3


The only way that sound seems to work is by connecting Audio RCA cable either from TV or DTV to any pair of 5.1 DVD RCA's. It doesn't work with input 1 or 2 and I tried every possible combination of dolby sound on/off (DTV) and surround sound on/off (TV), hdmi cables plugged or unplugged.


Any idea what I am doing wrong?

First 2 inputs possibly fried on SoundOn box?

Signal from TV or DTV not compatible with SoundOn box? (I tried DVD and mp3 player also, and results are the same)


I verified that all 6 RCA ports that are marked 5.1 DVD do work.


Is there a specialized cable that runs off regular audio output (2 RCAs) on TV or DTV and splits to 6 RCAs that would plug to SoundOn?


Or is it as simple as running some Y splitters to get from 2 channels to 6 channels?


Any advice greatly appreciated.

 

[rick240]

You should send the picture from the DTV box to the TV.


You should send the audio from the DTV box to the receiver via optical.

 

[Pierdobek]



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Originally Posted by rick240 /forum/post/19505601


You should send the picture from the DTV box to the TV.


You should send the audio from the DTV box to the receiver via optical.

You mean to dump HDMI?


With HDMI unplugged from DTV box and only Audio RCA running from DTV to HT box, there is no sound either.


Or... do you mean to run optical from DTV to TV and then see if Audio RCA from TV to HT box works?


I am almost sure that both input 1 and 2 on HT box are dead

Reviews on that particular HT box raved on how easy the setup was. Something isn't right.

 

[Pierdobek]

Not sure if I missed that, but HT receiver only has 3 audio inputs and no video inputs. No digital inputs.


#1 - stereo RCA (2 mono RCAs)

#2 - stereo RCA (2 mono RCAs)

#3 - 5.1 DVD (6 mono RCAs)


My understanding is that, if it was connected to #1 or #2, the receiver would do the conversion to Dolby Pro Logic II.


No idea about 5.1 DVD input.


If I just use Y splitter off a stereo (2 mono RCA) outs from TV or DTV, I end up with this:

- white - 2 whites - 4 whites (only 3 used)

- red - 2 reds - 4 reds (only 3 used)


Or, is there a 3 way RCA splitter?


Or am I completely wrong?

 

[rick240]

If you use #1 or #2 the receiver will take 2 channel stereo and muck with it to give you pseudo-surround (not the actual surround mix from the DVDs).


To use #3 you need a DVD player with 5.1 analog out.


Can you post a picture of the back of the unit?

 

[Pierdobek]

(W - white RCA in, R - red RCA in)


Input 1

W

R


Input 2

W

R


Input 3

W W W

R R R


on input 3 they are marked:

L Ls C

R Rs SUB


Let me know if you stilll want a photo. I can run upstairs and take a pic.


So, you think that with input 3, the HT unit does no processing?

I am kinda hoping for some kind of frequency filters. And that would be all I need, really.

All input 3 ins do produce sound, when any source stereo RCAs are plugged in.


Otherwise, I am looking at some kind of non-amplified surround processor. And there is only 1 that seems to even have digital inputs and does have 5.1 RCA outs.
http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/SHAC500D.PDF

 

[JChin]

Hi Pierdobek, it appears your input #1 and #2 are dead. They should be plug and play just like the input #3.


The panasonic unit looks likely to be successful in connecting your audio from H23 via optical cable, then 5.1 RCA out to SoundOn input #3.

 

[Pierdobek]



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Originally Posted by JChin /forum/post/19506399


Hi Pierdobek, it appears your input #1 and #2 are dead. They should be plug and play just like the input #3.


The panasonic unit looks likely to be successful in connecting your audio from H23 via optical cable, then 5.1 RCA out to SoundOn input #3.

Yeah, I am thinking that too. Just needed to hear it from someone else, hehe.

Any idea what would cause that and if stuff like that is fixable?


Advice on good/cheap 6/6 RCA cable?


I have a spare component cable but 2 audio wires are thinner than video ones. Was thinking about using them for rears or maybe center and sub. That would leave me out with 1 more wire.


And finally, that Technics/Panny unit has all kinds of ins, including digital optical and digital coax.

My TV has only digital coax out.

DTV has both digital coax and optical outs.


How should I connect it?

TV to Panny box to HT

or

DTV to Panny box to HT


To mess it up more, I have DVD connected to TV with HDMI.

Besides analog RCAs, It has digital coax out.

DVD to Panny box to HT?


Or just run the audio through TV?

 

[JChin]



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Originally Posted by Pierdobek /forum/post/19506480


Yeah, I am thinking that too. Just needed to hear it from someone else, hehe.

Any idea what would cause that and if stuff like that is fixable?

Don't know and if it was me, I wouldn't fix it.

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Advice on good/cheap 6/6 RCA cable?

Check monoprice.com

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How should I connect it?

Well it depend if your tv will pass DD 5.1 and output through Digital Coax Audio Output. If so then connect your sources to Tv and then out to Panasonic. If not then connect the audio from each source to Panasonic (either via optical or coaxial) in addition to HDMI to Tv (for video/audio).


Most tv "Digital Audio Output" will down mix to 2CH audio or not output at all (and switch over to Analog Audio Output) when sources are connected via HDMI due to HDCP, so read your Tv owners manual.


Not to be nosy but if you decide to get the Panasonic, how much in total are spend between the two (SoundOn and Panasonic)? IMO, weight the total and compare to a possible new system.

 

[Pierdobek]

You are not nosy at all and giving good advice. Yeah, if it wasn't for the fried inputs, I would be good as is. But, it looks like there are more advantages with adding another component. I know it will cost money. But at the very least I have decent wireless speaker system. Obviously I would like to keep it on the budget side. Used?


So with the new unit, I will be:


1. Hopefully being able to program my DTV remote to do the sound (SoundOn was not on the list and no way to program it)


2. Hopefully getting better sound quality and better sound control with 6 speakers.


3. What I haven't mentioned before, I also have 2 unused speakers above the bar area, which could be put to use. They are not amplified though.


4. I think my Mitsu TV digital out will not work, as you said.


So, back to the drawing board.


Option 1: surround sound processor

Option 2: AV receiver (with 5.1 pre-outs) - would that do my source switching too?


Keep the advice coming!