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Good Lord! A "Flatliners" remake?
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Wasn't meant to be malicious. Just saying, instead of saying "stop making movies" because you're offended by all the remakes and the limitation of dramatic narratives that stories can pull from; start judging films based objectively on their standalone merit.
Wasn't meant to be malicious. Just saying, instead of saying "stop making movies" because you're offended by all the remakes and the limitation of dramatic narratives that stories can pull from; start judging films based objectively on their standalone merit.
You're saying I Don't judge films by their standalone merit. Of course I do. To say I do otherwise is insulting.
I'm saying that this remake craze is just plain lazy, uninspired, unoriginal filmmaking. It's getting completely obnoxiously out of hand.
Hollywood is run by accountants, who wouldn't know a good movie if it flew out of their arse. They look at the numbers a famous film did, and then look for people to redo them so they can make money selling old ideas to a new audience. It's disgusting.
Some remakes are good, the vast majority are crap, plain and simple, but they keep coming because they make a boatload of money. I shouldn't HAVE to judge a remake at all. They are not made to improve the original...they are made to make money, quality be damned.
I want to see more young filmmakers make their own movies based on original ideas.
After all, that's what the creators of the original movies that are being remade did. They used their creative brains to come up with something original, or worked from books that were never made into films before (with a few exceptions of course).
The people who remake them are creativity parasites.
You're saying I Don't judge films by their standalone merit. Of course I do. To say I do otherwise is insulting.
I'm saying that this remake craze is just plain lazy, uninspired, unoriginal filmmaking. It's getting completely obnoxiously out of hand.
Hollywood is run by accountants, who wouldn't know a good movie if it flew out of their arse. They look at the numbers a famous film did, and then look for people to redo them so they can make money selling old ideas to a new audience. It's disgusting.
Some remakes are good, the vast majority are crap, plain and simple, but they keep coming because they make a boatload of money. I shouldn't HAVE to judge a remake at all. They are not made to improve the original...they are made to make money, quality be damned.
I want to see more young filmmakers make their own movies based on original ideas.
After all, that's what the creators of the original movies that are being remade did. They used their creative brains to come up with something original, or worked from books that were never made into films before (with a few exceptions of course).
The people who remake them are creativity parasites.
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Flatliners remake? I remember not liking the first one.
If you're going to do a remake shoot for the stars. Case in point: The retelling of The Day the Earth Stood Still. Now there was a by God good remake worthy of the name. I bet if Keanu had been at the helm the Titanic wouldn't have sunk. I hope we get The Deer Hunter remade with Seth Rogen next year. Hollywood never lets me down, so I'm excited.
If you're going to do a remake shoot for the stars. Case in point: The retelling of The Day the Earth Stood Still. Now there was a by God good remake worthy of the name. I bet if Keanu had been at the helm the Titanic wouldn't have sunk. I hope we get The Deer Hunter remade with Seth Rogen next year. Hollywood never lets me down, so I'm excited.
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I remember being disappointed in the first one. But I was quite intrigued by the concept of the movie before it was released. I always liked movies like "Altered States" and "Brainstorm" and "Dreamscape" that explored these mindscapes, so exploring life after death seemed like it would be right up my alley. But the movie didn't deliver the goods.
Hopefully the remake can, but I'm not holding my breath.
Hopefully the remake can, but I'm not holding my breath.
Yeah, there are only 36 basic plot points available. It all depends on how you mix and match them to make a story seem new or different.
1.Supplication (in which the Supplicant must beg something from Power in authority)
2.Deliverance
3.Crime Pursued by Vengeance
4.Vengeance taken for kindred upon kindred
5.Pursuit
6.Disaster
7.Falling Prey to Cruelty of Misfortune
8.Revolt
9.Daring Enterprise
10.Abduction
11.The Enigma (temptation or a riddle)
12.Obtaining
13.Enmity of Kinsmen
14.Rivalry of Kinsmen
15.Murderous Adultery
16.Madness
17.Fatal Imprudence
18.Involuntary Crimes of Love (example: discovery that one has married one's mother, sister, etc.)
19.Slaying of a Kinsman Unrecognized
20.Self-Sacrificing for an Ideal
21.Self-Sacrifice for Kindred
22.All Sacrificed for Passion
23.Necessity of Sacrificing Loved Ones
24.Rivalry of Superior and Inferior
25.Adultery
26.Crimes of Love
27.Discovery of the Dishonor of a Loved One
28.Obstacles to Love
29.An Enemy Loved
30.Ambition
31.Conflict with a God
32.Mistaken Jealousy
33.Erroneous Judgement
34.Remorse
35.Recovery of a Lost One
36.Loss of Loved Ones.
http://www.ipl.org/div/farq/plotFARQ.html
Yeah, there are only 36 basic plot points available. It all depends on how you mix and match them to make a story seem new or different.
1.Supplication (in which the Supplicant must beg something from Power in authority)
2.Deliverance
3.Crime Pursued by Vengeance
4.Vengeance taken for kindred upon kindred
5.Pursuit
6.Disaster
7.Falling Prey to Cruelty of Misfortune
8.Revolt
9.Daring Enterprise
10.Abduction
11.The Enigma (temptation or a riddle)
12.Obtaining
13.Enmity of Kinsmen
14.Rivalry of Kinsmen
15.Murderous Adultery
16.Madness
17.Fatal Imprudence
18.Involuntary Crimes of Love (example: discovery that one has married one's mother, sister, etc.)
19.Slaying of a Kinsman Unrecognized
20.Self-Sacrificing for an Ideal
21.Self-Sacrifice for Kindred
22.All Sacrificed for Passion
23.Necessity of Sacrificing Loved Ones
24.Rivalry of Superior and Inferior
25.Adultery
26.Crimes of Love
27.Discovery of the Dishonor of a Loved One
28.Obstacles to Love
29.An Enemy Loved
30.Ambition
31.Conflict with a God
32.Mistaken Jealousy
33.Erroneous Judgement
34.Remorse
35.Recovery of a Lost One
36.Loss of Loved Ones.
http://www.ipl.org/div/farq/plotFARQ.html
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