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Go for it - you won't be sorry. The combo of Panny 10a and RS1 is outstanding. Actually, the combo of RS1 and any HD player is going to be outstanding. I actually can't believe the quality I am getting from my cable at 1080i with the RS1 de-interlacing to 1080P! Blu-Ray of course, is in a different league.


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Miata, sorry I can't help because the Sony is returned already for credit. I never even opened the box to try it. I was hoping to read your comparison first. But after reading all the other OP's comments I stopped at BB and they said the Panny would arrive Sat nite I had them do the paper work for the exchange. I'm not worried about the upconversion as my XA2 does a fantastic job via HDMI. I mostly am looking for the sound improvements via the analogs. BTW, were you able to find the 5.1 analog switcher? If anyone knows of a reasonably priced one let me know. Thanks, Ed
 

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... BTW, were you able to find the 5.1 analog switcher? If anyone knows of a reasonably priced one let me know. Thanks, Ed

The Zektor HDS 4.1 is what I'm getting (on the way). It is not the cheapest but it appears to be a quality buy.

Zektor HDS 4.1


It has a surprising foot space at 21" x 11" x 6.5". I had to rearrange my equipment on the rack to accommodate.
 

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Miata,


I just returned my S300 for the BD10A. I'm connected HDMI to an Onkyo 805 avr then to a Pio plasma. What comparision info are you looking for?

OK. I am primarily interested in the overall sound quality. It sounds like you are connected via HDMI, so your results will different from mine. Your other information was helpful though.


EDIT: what about overall menu responsiveness with both BD and DVD? The Sony does seem a little sluggish in that area.
 

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The Zektor HDS 4.1 is what I'm getting (on the way). It is not the cheapest but it appears to be a quality buy.

Zektor HDS 4.1


It has a surprising foot space at 21" x 11" x 6.5". I had to rearrange my equipment on the rack to accommodate.

mfabien,


You are talking about the box size. Right? The manual says the product dimensions are 17W x 6.5D x 1.75H.
 

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mfabien,


You are talking about the box size. Right? The manual says the product dimensions are 17W x 6.5D x 1.75H.

Oh, right! The dimensions were under shipping instructions. I was stunned. The new dimensions you give make much more sense. Thanks.
 

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the announcement of the Sammy P2400. The latest info says it will output TrueHD and DTS-HD bitstream via HDMI 1.3, does 1080p/24, and has the HQV processor. Same price as the BD10A and due out in October.

Whoa! Will this be the "perfect" player???


Gotta check it out.
 

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Whoa! Will this be the "perfect" player???


Gotta check it out.

The perfect player will always be just over the horizon
 

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Whoa! Will this be the "perfect" player???


Gotta check it out.

Don't know about perfect. But when it hits the market I'll give it a test drive. For now I'm sitting pat with the BD10A.
 

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The Zektor 4.1 is a little pricey for me at the presant. Has anyone tried RCA "Y" adapters with any luck? I'm only going to have one player on at a time.
 

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The Zektor 4.1 is a little pricey for me at the presant. Has anyone tried RCA "Y" adapters with any luck? I'm only going to have one player on at a time.

I have received 6 Y cables last week, thinking just like you. Considering the danger of a misstep only once in a blue moon, I put them aside in favor of a proper switch box.
 

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EDIT: what about overall menu responsiveness with both BD and DVD? The Sony does seem a little sluggish in that area.


Miata,


The Sony responds marginally faster to remote command (as shown with OSD) but "lags" briefly from the OSD to the actual execution. One example is during FF. the player pauses briefly, sometimes reverses a frame or two, then began FF.


The Panny, on the other hand, reponds very well and operates smoothly.
 

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The Zektor 4.1 is a little pricey for me at the presant. Has anyone tried RCA "Y" adapters with any luck? I'm only going to have one player on at a time.

If cost is an issue, try the Philips manual component switcher - twenty bucks at W-Mart. I'm using this to switch 5.1 analog from 2 players with good results.
 

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Thanks for the info. I just placed an order online with BB. It is supposed to ship within one business day. I guess I'll see...and hear...


Have you received your Panny from BB yet? Very curious to hear how you compare it to the Sony.
 

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I was faced with the same dilemna last month.


$100 more gives me 5 movies (but I already had them all
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I get DTSHD decoding...but uhh, there is like 5 movies with this...had it been MA decoding, I'd have been all over it.


TrueHD, once again only a couple movies...but I have 100% confidence that the bdps300 will do atleast trueHD once bdps1's are out of the pipelines.


benefits to sony:


Price (cheaper)

interface (better imo)

x.v. color

24p output


They are both great, it's what is right for you!
 

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I was faced with the same dilemna last month.


$100 more gives me 5 movies (but I already had them all
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I get DTSHD decoding...but uhh, there is like 5 movies with this...had it been MA decoding, I'd have been all over it.


TrueHD, once again only a couple movies...but I have 100% confidence that the bdps300 will do atleast trueHD once bdps1's are out of the pipelines.


benefits to sony:


Price (cheaper)

interface (better imo)

x.v. color

24p output


They are both great, it's what is right for you!

Had the S300, got the BD10A, then returned the BD10A. The ONLY benefit I found with the Panny was the TrueHD & DTS-HD HR. As BTBuck1 points out, there are not that many THD or DTS-HD movies.


With a good HDMI receiver uncompresed PCM sounds very impressive. I've got the Onkyo 805 that's capable of decoding the HD codecs. The Sammy P2400 coming out this fall is the player I would like to test-drive.


But for me, the main reason I kept the S300 is it ability to output 1080p/24. I notice a clear difference between the BD10A and the S300 on my plasma on every BD I've watched on both players. For me picture quality ranks a 10 and sound ranks 8.5 - the picture is what wow's the crowd.
 

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Had the S300, got the BD10A, then returned the BD10A. The ONLY benefit I found with the Panny was the TrueHD & DTS-HD HR. As BTBuck1 points out, there are not that many THD or DTS-HD movies.


With a good HDMI receiver uncompresed PCM sounds very impressive. I've got the Onkyo 805 that's capable of decoding the HD codecs. The Sammy P2400 coming out this fall is the player I would like to test-drive.


But for me, the main reason I kept the S300 is it ability to output 1080p/24. I notice a clear difference between the BD10A and the S300 on my plasma on every BD I've watched on both players. For me picture quality ranks a 10 and sound ranks 8.5 - the picture is what wow's the crowd.

I am strongly leaning towards the Sony for the same reasons. Plus, when the newer players come out, I will move the Sony to the bedroom with one of the new Pio plasmas. Sound will not be much of a factor at that point.
 

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Have you received your Panny from BB yet? Very curious to hear how you compare it to the Sony.

I got the Panny yesterday and have both the Sony and Panny connected and set-up with the Harmony remote. It is clear that I need to do some audio calibration before I can give any kind of useful feedback in that area. The audio differences are the main reason I went for the Panny. So, far the analog component video for both BD (1080i) and DVD (480p) are very similar with film based material. I've heard other people compare the responsiveness of the players, but all I can say is that they are both slow and unresponsive. I'm not sure that I want to get out a stop watch to quantify how bad they are. I'm not complaining. This is the price you have to pay for leading edge HD. The good news is that they both seem to be relatively stable.


A few general observations so far:


- the Panny is very light in weight -- a mixed bag -- makes me a little nervous, but makes me think that the power situation is under control unlike some other HD components out there...

- I like the range of video settings with the Panny

- the Panny OSD screens are ugly and less than intuitive

- the Panny remote is a wreck

- the Panny's front door really is an annoyance as is not having an eject button on the remote -- I leave it down now and will remove it if I decide to keep

- there doesn't seem to be any kind of bit rate meter like the Sony

- I don't know what all the fuss is about the 2.2 update. It was easy as can be (at least when using a Mac:)

- I'm getting a little DVD RP-91 Deja Vu


So, unless the Panny's 5.1 analog audio is just superb, I'll be returning it to Best Buy. I have not yet touched any of the "free discs." BTW, any special audio tests anybody would recommend given this BD collection?


Casino Royale (Blu-ray)

Donnie Brasco (Blu-ray)

Enemy of the State (Blu-ray)

The Fifth Element (Blu-ray)

Hart's War (Blu-ray)

Identity (Blu-ray)

Layer Cake (Blu-ray)

Seven Years in Tibet (Blu-ray)

Tears of the Sun (Blu-ray)

The Terminator (Blu-ray)
 

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I got the Panny yesterday and have both the Sony and Panny connected and set-up with the Harmony remote. It is clear that I need to do some audio calibration before I can give any kind of useful feedback in that area. The audio differences are the main reason I went for the Panny. So, far the analog component video for both BD (1080i) and DVD (480p) are very similar with film based material. I've heard other people compare the responsiveness of the players, but all I can say is that they are both slow and unresponsive. I'm not sure that I want to get out a stop watch to quantify how bad they are. I'm not complaining. This is the price you have to pay for leading edge HD. The good news is that they both seem to be relatively stable.


A few general observations so far:


- the Panny is very light in weight -- a mixed bag -- makes me a little nervous, but makes me think that the power situation is under control unlike some other HD components out there...

- I like the range of video settings with the Panny

- the Panny OSD screens are ugly and less than intuitive

- the Panny remote is a wreck

- the Panny's front door really is an annoyance as is not having an eject button on the remote -- I leave it down now and will remove it if I decide to keep

- there doesn't seem to be any kind of bit rate meter like the Sony

- I don't know what all the fuss is about the 2.2 update. It was easy as can be (at least when using a Mac:)

- I'm getting a little DVD RP-91 Deja Vu


So, unless the Panny's 5.1 analog audio is just superb, I'll be returning it to Best Buy. I have not yet touched any of the "free discs." BTW, any special audio tests anybody would recommend given this BD collection?


Casino Royale (Blu-ray)

Donnie Brasco (Blu-ray)

Enemy of the State (Blu-ray)

The Fifth Element (Blu-ray)

Hart's War (Blu-ray)

Identity (Blu-ray)

Layer Cake (Blu-ray)

Seven Years in Tibet (Blu-ray)

Tears of the Sun (Blu-ray)

The Terminator (Blu-ray)

do you have ghost rider to check?
 
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