[Gorilla83]

WAY overdue update as of 1/18/22

-Swapped my dinosaur receiver (Denon 4311ci) for a Marantz 7705 processor. Excited to finally move to separates, sound is awesome with a very low noise floor. HEOS is pretty cool to play with as well.
-Along with the new processor, finally added atmos speakers and amp - some basic Niles 7" FX ceiling speakers to get going and they sound great. Will likely swap these for something higher efficiency later on but these work great. Also picked up a Emotiva BasX 4 channel to power them while on sale around black friday this year.
-In preparation for my 4K projector swap at Christmas, ran a new 8K capable in-wall HDMI cable (never fun doing this with SO many cables in the wall now) but it's done! Really excited to swap out my Sony 55ES for a 295ES 4K model
-Swapped to 4K projector finally, Sony 295ES, super happy with this move


Updated 8/21/14:

Now that I've finally gotten most of this room roughed out, I figured it was time to post some pictures and some basic info. As my wife can attest, this room is a constantly evolving projecting - the setup is subject to change at any given day, haha. This is the 3rd listening/media room in my house and the most recent. There are 5 total rooms in my house with audio/video setups in the house ranging from the garage to this room, but this is my favorite so far. I'll post up some info on the other rooms sometime soon.

The room before - light yellow paint, shelving in the corners, Mitsu 65" DLP, basic Polk Monitor 70 setup, HK receiver, etc.



Setup as of today:

A few months ago the wife and I decided we wanted to change to a projector. At first, this was going to be a simple ceiling mounted install that would be a directly replacement for the DLP you see above. The project evolved into removing the shelves, restructuring the corner frame/drywall, paint (entire basement!), new dedicated 20A lines for the equipment, remote triggered relays, moving furniture, new decorations, etc. I'm sure MANY of you can relate!

Notes: While I'd like to do something with the ceiling, converting to black is likely not practical since this is a multi purpose room.

Viewing area: (open) 13x22
Bar area: 19x22
Hallway: 5x20
2 other rooms are in the basement comprised of a a gym/play area and a workroom

Electronics:
Receiver - Denon 4311ci
Media - Sonos Connect, Oppo 93, Sony PS3, Roku 3 HD, Verizon FIOS HD DVR
Power - Panamax 4400 20A Conditioner/Surge protection X 2
Projector - Sony VPL-HW55ES
Screen - Falcon framed AT screen using Seymour XD fabric, 133" in 16:9
Sub Amps - Peavey IPR7500 x 1, Inuke 6000DSP x 1, driven by remote triggered relays in utility room.
Mains amp: Sherbourn A7-350 7 channel
EQ - MiniDSP 10x10

Speakers:
Mains - Yorkville U215B
Center - Yorkvillle U215B
Surrounds - JBL 8340A
Subwoofers - 4 x Dual opposed Stereo Integriy D4 18's up front, 2 x SI18 D4's in rear/nearfield (10 total SI 18" drivers)

Room Treatments - DIY
All treatments 4" thick 3# rigid fiberboard with 1x4 frame and covered with black speaker cloth. Most are 2x4' in size.
Front wall floor to ceiling coverage 4" thick semi-rigid fiberglass
3 X rear corner bass traps (floor to ceiling)
7 X side wall traps
Ceiling - 1 foot thick R38 above tiles over entire ceiling, Certainteed Theater Black F ceiling tiles


Other:
Custom Riser 9'3" wide x 6'6" deep, 10" tall
Custom Equipment cabinets x 2
Omnimount Projector Mount
Dayton Omnimic V2
Euroboom Mic Stand - for room sweeps
Logitech Harmony 880 Remote
Monoprice 12gauge oxygen free speaker cable (all)
Monoprice Coaxial cables
Monoprice Wall plates, assorted

Gym area
2 X Crown XLS2000
Behringer B212XL x 2
JBL MPro 418S x 2
DBX Driverack PA2 EQ
Numark M2 Mixer

Pictures from 2012 when the room was set up

Corner 'shelves' removed and bases cut down and reframed:


Wall sealed and primered


Room after paint - Sherwin williams Flat black and Harbor Grey Sides


Corner area made into custom speaker stands, flat black


Screen assembly





Projector hung, near flush mount


Custom wallplate behind rack


Screen hung on the wall



Main view of the room




Bar area leading into theater



Screen



Equipment rack


Back hallway



Gym area

 

[carp]

Nice, love it Gorilla!! So the room is actually 44 feet long if you include the bar area? Am I reading that right? Wow.


I might have missed it, how far back is your main seating? Your screen is about the size of mine in 16:9, mine is 124". I'm a little under 14 feet from the screen so I'm curious about you.


Love the workout room, great looking cage, free weights and dumbbells. I wish I had a room to have a setup like that. I see you actually have it setup for squats. In my old age I've pretty much given up on legs and only do upper body. Chicken legs rule.

 

[Gorilla83]



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Originally Posted by carp  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22385224


Nice, love it Gorilla!! So the room is actually 44 feet long if you include the bar area? Am I reading that right? Wow.

I might have missed it, how far back is your main seating? Your screen is about the size of mine in 16:9, mine is 124". I'm a little under 14 feet from the screen so I'm curious about you.

Love the workout room, great looking cage, free weights and dumbbells. I wish I had a room to have a setup like that. I see you actually have it setup for squats. In my old age I've pretty much given up on legs and only do upper body. Chicken legs rule.

Thanks man! Yes, the room is indeed 44 feet long so it's quite a space to fill. As you can imagine, bass is sucked up pretty easily. Right now I'm sitting about 18 feet back, but may be moving the primary seating up a few feet.


The gym is actually 2 separate rooms - the other room has mostly accessory and cardio equipment. As a powerlifer, unfortunately I'm forced to keep up with squatting, ugh. It's fun most of the time but it sure takes its toll with age.

 

[MIkeDuke]

Wow, that is quite the room you have there. it looks very well setup from the pictures. Just so you know, I still hate all you guys with really big screens

. Having the GTG there should be a fun time.

 

[Bunga99]

This room and all the gear looks excellent!! I think you did a terrific job on everything! Very nicely done!

 

[Scout's staff]

Very nice room - regarding the white ceiling and the desire not to darken it. Have you thought about just changing the first 2 rows above the screen? Perhaps try covering them with a dark cloth to see if there is a noticeable improvement.


Again, great job on the room.

 

[carp]



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Originally Posted by Gorilla83  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22385452


Thanks man! Yes, the room is indeed 44 feet long so it's quite a space to fill. As you can imagine, bass is sucked up pretty easily. Right now I'm sitting about 18 feet back, but may be moving the primary seating up a few feet.

The gym is actually 2 separate rooms - the other room has mostly accessory and cardio equipment. As a powerlifer, unfortunately I'm forced to keep up with squatting, ugh. It's fun most of the time but it sure takes its toll with age.

I started at 16.5 feet and am now at just under 14 feet away. Cheapest way to upgrade my screen size.

Assuming the 83 means you are still just shy of 30 you should be just now coming into your prime as far as powerlifting goes right? Sadly I've got a decade on you...

 

[Reefdvr27]

Looks good Rilla!!! What time should I be over for the Eagles game??

 

[JimWilson]

Nice bar too. I know where I'm going to be parking my @ss now...

 

[Gorilla83]



Quote:
Originally Posted by MIkeDuke  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22385525


Wow, that is quite the room you have there. it looks very well setup from the pictures. Just so you know, I still hate all you guys with really big screens

. Having the GTG there should be a fun time.

Thanks! I expect the GTG to be a blast and I'm happy to have the room ready in advance. There is still some tweaking to be done, but overall I'm happy with the progress.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunga99  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22385534


This room and all the gear looks excellent!! I think you did a terrific job on everything! Very nicely done!

Thank you Bunga!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scout's staff  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22386134


Very nice room - regarding the white ceiling and the desire not to darken it. Have you thought about just changing the first 2 rows above the screen? Perhaps try covering them with a dark cloth to see if there is a noticeable improvement.

Again, great job on the room.

Thank you! I'm thinking about doing some experimenting with a black sheet/cloth for now to see the impact on the picture. I may head over to the fabric store sometime in the next few weeks. My only fear is that if I change only the first few rows it won't look right with the rest of the room. Changing the panels sure is easy enough though, so no issue there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by carp  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22386329


I started at 16.5 feet and am now at just under 14 feet away. Cheapest way to upgrade my screen size.

Assuming the 83 means you are still just shy of 30 you should be just now coming into your prime as far as powerlifting goes right? Sadly I've got a decade on you...

Yep, I'll be 30 in January and *hopefully* have some good years ahead to set some personal bests.


As for the seating - If/when I build risers and stagger the sofa/loveseat, the first row will be 14-16' away and the second row around 20-21. Good news is acoustically there doesn't seem to be much of a difference between 18 (Current LP) and 16'.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefdvr27  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22386372


Looks good Rilla!!! What time should I be over for the Eagles game??

Thank you! Actually, I'm watching game day live right now and you're more than welcome to come by for this game or any others.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimWilson  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22386433


Nice bar too. I know where I'm going to be parking my @ss now...

Thanks Jim, the bar is a favorite of mine as well. I'm thinking we'll put it to good use at the GTG.

 

[BrolicBeast]

This is a great system. I especially like the corner speaker stands that currently hold your caps! Very well executed room. Remember, no curling the captivators!

With your DefTech towers w. built in subs, do you use a crossover, or do you run them as "Full Range?"

 

[Gorilla83]



Quote:
Originally Posted by BrolicBeast  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22387565


This is a great system. I especially like the corner speaker stands that currently hold your caps! Very well executed room. Remember, no curling the captivators!

With your DefTech towers w. built in subs, do you use a crossover, or do you run them as "Full Range?"

Thank you sir. The stands were pretty well reinforced to hold the weight of the caps easily. I can stand on them now with the subs too with no stress at all.

As for the deftechs - running them as small and crossed at 80hz allowed them to best integrate with the rest of the system.

 

[Ryansboston]

Wow! Awesome set up man!! I would have never guessed the LP was 18 feet away; the room looks "small"(er) in the pictures due to the ginormous screen and huge pieces of furniture you have in there. I wish I had that much dedicated room for my setup

Nice gym set up too.. My "gym" consists of adjustable weight in the same room as my tv and surround set up..


Can't wait for the GTG, it's gonna be fun. I'm with Jim, I'll be sitting right at that sweet bar for a good amount of time even if it's not an optimum listening position haha.

 

[JimWilson]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryansboston  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22394529


I'm with Jim, I'll be sitting right at that sweet bar for a good amount of time even if it's not an optimum listening position haha.

Since when is sitting at the bar not the optimum position? Just don't take my spot, or it will get ugly!

 

[Gorilla83]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryansboston  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22394529


Wow! Awesome set up man!! I would have never guessed the LP was 18 feet away; the room looks "small"(er) in the pictures due to the ginormous screen and huge pieces of furniture you have in there. I wish I had that much dedicated room for my setup

Nice gym set up too.. My "gym" consists of adjustable weight in the same room as my tv and surround set up..

Can't wait for the GTG, it's gonna be fun. I'm with Jim, I'll be sitting right at that sweet bar for a good amount of time even if it's not an optimum listening position haha.

Thanks Ryan. I've been really enjoying the room (every night!) so far. I'm completely excited for the GTG as well, looking forward to hosting you guys.


Update to the setup - The miniDSP is now installed. For now I've simply applied a 19hz HPF to keep the Caps from making ugly noises below tune. This weekend I'm going to run some Omnimic sweeps again to see if any other tweaking is needed. I'd also like to experiment with the subs in 15hz tune again.

 

[Gorilla83]

Updates! I've begun building the frames for my bass traps/panels. The first areas to be treated with the front corners and first reflection points. I'm supposed to receive my OC703 board sometime this week, so I should have at least a few of them up and running this weekend!


Frames built and burlap backing applied:

Mount installed and test fit in the corner:

The front 3 speakers have also been swapped for SHO-10s.

 

[MIkeDuke]

Nice looking trap. So you are building your own? I bought mine from GIK. They worked great for me. Besides the front corners, where else are you planning on putting them. Once you get them all in place you will probably have to re-do the EQ in your system. But it will be worth the effort.

 

[Gorilla83]



Quote:
Originally Posted by MIkeDuke  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22477019


Nice looking trap. So you are building your own? I bought mine from GIK. They worked great for me. Besides the front corners, where else are you planning on putting them. Once you get them all in place you will probably have to re-do the EQ in your system. But it will be worth the effort.

Thanks Mike. Yes, I'm building my own and I've got plenty of material to built a bunch of them! I think I have enough for 7-8 traps/panels to start with. I looked at buying from GIK or ATS, but the frames are so easy to build. This way I can also custom size them if I need to as well - which I will have to in some areas. First areas to be treated will be the front corners, rear corner by the LP, first reflection points, and probably some insulation above the ceiling/wall perimeter. I should have 2-4 of them done by the GTG so you can check them out. I don't mind re-EQ'ing as i'm constantly tweaking and experimenting with different setups anyway.

Project list, upcoming:

1) Finish front L&R bass traps

2) Reinstall white trip under corner stands

2) Build Speaker stands for the SHO-10s

3) Experiment with the JTR caps positioned mid wall

4) Continue with room treatment building for first reflection points and rear corners

 

[MIkeDuke]

I have 8 in my small room and I think that did the trick for me. I still want to check out one more possible space for some small traps but I will need someone else's input for that. Going from no or limited treatments to a treated room will really make a big difference. I was really not prepared for the

moment when they were all in place.

 

[Gorilla83]



Quote:
Originally Posted by MIkeDuke  /t/1428456/gorilla83s-humble-basement-hangout#post_22477559


I have 8 in my small room and I think that did the trick for me. I still want to check out one more possible space for some small traps but I will need someone else's input for that. Going from no or limited treatments to a treated room will really make a big difference. I was really not prepared for the

moment when they were all in place.

Did you do them all at the same time? I imagine that would be a drastic change! My walls right now are completely uncovered and there is a substantial amount of reverb/echo on the room. I'm hoping it will be a substantial upgrade!