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Green-ish image when conecting to HDTV via DVI

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Hey guys,


I have some problems, I finally connected one of my PC's to my Hitachi 57SWX20b via DVI.


I'm using a 9800PRO with the latest Catalyst drivers (5.2)


Also the DVI cable I'm currently using is a DVI-D which works just fine if I use anything else as the source like my HDTV-DVR, however when I use this cable with my 9800pro with the latest drivers, the image looks green, everything green haha.


I'm new to this, but I've never heard of this issue, I've tried changing the settings in the control panel, forcing 1080i or 720p etc, but not matter what resolution I use or force via drivers, the image still has that green tint.


I've also tried to change the color from within the driver with no luck.


Anyway, I would really appreciate your help, thanks. :D
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Your not watching the matrix are you :D You may want to see if your set has colorspace user options to maybe flip between the two and see if the wrong colorspace is being applied to that input


-pd
The only things that I can think even close to that would be the HDTV or SDTV color palette, but they don' t do anything to alleviate this, I'm thinking its some sort of either timing issue or I dunno..


lol @ matrix comment :p
lol, he beat me to the matrix comment.


Anyways, i'm pretty sure i know whats happening. As you said, its probably timing related. I've had this happen to me as well, I'd venture all you'll need to do is go into powerstrip and either add the correct custom timing, or even easier, I'd bet that you'll only need to change the 60hz to 59.94 or something similar(usually its trial and error to see what your display likes.) I usually start with adding the default htdv resolutions, ie: 1920x1080hdtv standard, and then if the color is like you say, try adjusting the Hz ever so slightly.. i'm pretty sure that will do it.


also, you could search your hdtv model here to see if anyone has any custom resolutions for ATI. Likewise, you could search the powerstrip forums, they have a section on custom resolutions for all sorts of hdtvs.


Also, another sure way to get your resolution specs for your hdtv right is to download a program called moninfo. I believe its at the powerstrip site as well.


Anyways, it will tell you exactly the refresh rates and settings your tv likes. Following is my info from my 34inch phillips crt, to give you an idea. Maybe the default settings of mine will work for you. Also, the color info it gives you is pretty helpful too, it helps one match color to your tv properly.

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Monitor

Windows description......... Philips Monitor

Manufacturer description.... HDMI TV

Manufacturer................ Philips

———————————————————— ————————

Plug and Play ID............ PHL5450

Serial number............... 1 (134400001)

———————————————————— ————————

Manufacture date............ 2003, ISO week 44

EDID revision............... 1.3

Display type and signal..... Digital

Sync input support.......... n/a

Screen size................. 560 x 420 mm (~30")

Power management............ Not supported


Color characteristics

Display gamma............... 2.20

Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340

Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595

Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.155 - By 0.070

White point (default)....... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298


Timing characteristics

VESA GTF support............ Not supported

Horizontal scan range....... 15-46kHz

Vertical scan range......... 59-61Hz

Video bandwidth............. 80MHz

Extension blocks............ 1

Timing recommendation #1.... 1920x1080 at 30Hz

Modeline................ "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Timing recommendation #2.... 720x480 at 60Hz

Modeline................ "720x480" 27.030 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync


Standard timings supported

640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA

720 x 480 at 60Hz - Philips

1920 x 1080 at 30Hz - Philips


Raw EDID (3)

00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 41 0C 50 54 01 00 00 00

10: 2C 0D 01 03 80 38 2A 78 0A 0D C9 A0 57 47 98 27

20: 12 48 4C 20 00 00 01 41 01 41 01 01 01 01 01 01

30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 1D 80 18 71 1C 16 20 58 2C

40: 25 00 30 3B 21 00 00 9E 8F 0A D0 8A 20 E0 2D 10

50: 10 3E 96 00 30 A4 21 00 00 18 00 00 00 FC 00 48

60: 44 4D 49 20 54 56 0A 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FD

70: 00 3B 3D 0F 2E 08 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 C6
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wow, thanks a lot for your help, I'll try those things you mentioned out tonight and see if I can get a better picture


:)
Hey NEODARK, we have very similar systems. I have the exact same TV as you with a DVI straight from an ATI 9600XT. Are you using powerstrip? I found the 880 x 496 resolution was the best res for my set for windows desktop and surfing the net. Hardly any overscan and very sharp. I'll copy the exact settings here later when I get home for you to use in powerstrip. I followed the Karnis guide and stuck to his suggestion that using 540 timings was the way to go for our set.


I'm still playing with DVD players (downloading all the progs and filters etc.), settings and the proper resolutions so no headway on that end yet. So if you have any insight or breakthroughs we should keep in touch given our systems are so close. If you want PM me so we can exchange emails. I can even send you my Hitachi 57swx20b monitor file for powerstrip.


I've been at this HTPC with this setup for a while now, but off and on so my learning curve has been very gradual.


Have fun,


Scott
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Yup, just installed powerstrip, I used it before to overclock my videocard, so I'm somewhat familiar with it.


Anyway I found that the resolution 880x496 you suggested is PERFECT 0% overscan, its just sweet, HOWEVER :(


My picture is still green, and my TV locks into 1080i. I tried hooking up my Dell 2001FP display via DVI to check the cable and the picture was the normal color and with no Abnormalities, so the cable and videocard are good, its the TV creating the greenish image, even though it works proppery with other DVI devices....



I haven't really had time to mess with it though, but I did try tweaking the timings a bit, but all that did was stretch the image, the color is still the same


I definitely want to keep in touch, I PM'd you my contact info.


Im still generally new to this, but I have a pretty strong computer background, so im sure we can figure this out :)


I would also really like to have your monitor file :)
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Well I have the exact same problem, cept I'm using dvi to vga adapter to a monitor, yep feels like I'm watching the matrix lol. Don't know why it's doing it but GOT GREEN....
Im puzzled that im not alone in this, you'd think more ppl would post anywhere about a similar issue, but so far I had no luck finding any posts about the issue...


hdtv00


- is your TV the same model?

- what drivers are you using?

- what resolution?

- what videocard?

-did you try DVI directly?


thanks :)
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When I had my HTPC for a few weeks, my DVI picture had an awful red tint. Never looked into it further since I scrapped most of the project. I do believe it is a timings issue though.
I've been searching (google is my frined) and I've seen other issues, but nothing like this, mostly the other issues dealt with defective TV's though


My TV is in perfect condition and as I said above, it works just fine with any other source via DVI (aka HDTV box or DVD player)


I will have to try with another videocard I have laying around, but I want my 9800pro on this PC as it would give me the best results for playing games etc...


thanks for your input everyone, I believe eventually this will be solved :p
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so the cable and videocard are good, its the TV creating the greenish image, even though it works proppery with other DVI devices....
Sorry, I've never had this greenish problem. I recall an issue with green video a while back being discussed in these forums, but I think it was a problem only when playing a DVD inside zoomplayer with WinDVD encoders. Not just in the desktop.


How's the clarity of text and stuff? Is everything good except for this greenish tinge? Obviously, your TV looks fine when not hooked up to the HTPC right? I'll also try and determine what DVI cable I got. When I bought it I remember there beeing some confusion as to what the correct type was for our TV.


I'll send you that monitor file. Did you check out that moninfo program epking referred to?


Scott
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is your TV the same model? - No its a monitor, no tv involved

what drivers are you using?- 6.14.10.6505 from 11/30/2004

what resolution? 1024x768

what videocard? 9800

did you try DVI directly? - no monitor doesnt have dvi, thats why Im using dvi to vga adapter that came with the 9800


I have X1 hooked up to the vga, and the monitor hooked up dvi/vga adapter.


I'll update to latest drivers via 3dguru and report back.
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A bent pin?
scottwin


the clarity, ect is exellent. The DVI cable is a DVI-D, as for that program I will try today when I get home :)


-also Scott, do you have any component cables connected on the same input as DVI, I leave mine hooked up and just let DVI overtake...


hdtv00


yours sounds like a differnet issue I think, I had it happen to me with component inputs, one cable was loose and the picture turned green or black and white, make sure all of the cables are plugged in all the way in, and if they are maybe the adapter isnt passing the signal correctly, did you try differnet combinations with the switches? or maybe 1 of your component cables is bad?


and jriver


nope, no bent pins, the cable works just fine same as the card and TV, its the combination of all 3 that makes me wonder what is the matrix?


and I think the answer is, it's a TV :p
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this is what MONINFO gave me: (now I just have to make sense of it. I have no idea what to do with this, lol)


Monitor

Windows description......... Hitachi Monitor

Manufacturer description.... HITACHI PTV

Manufacturer................ Hitachi

———————————————————— ————————

Plug and Play ID............ HTCD752

Serial number............... n/a

EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)

———————————————————— ————————

Manufacture date............ 2003

EDID revision............... 1.3

Display type and signal..... Digital

Sync input support.......... n/a

Screen size................. 160 x 90 mm (~8")

Power management............ n/a


Color characteristics

Display gamma............... 1.80

Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.657 - Ry 0.340

Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.301 - Gy 0.627

Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.143 - By 0.047

White point (default)....... Wx 0.278 - Wy 0.280


Timing characteristics

VESA GTF support............ Not supported

Horizontal scan range....... 15-46kHz

Vertical scan range......... 59-61Hz

Video bandwidth............. 80MHz

Extension blocks............ 1

Timing recommendation #1.... 1920x540 at 60Hz

Modeline................ "1920x540" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 540 542 547 562 +hsync +vsync

Timing recommendation #2.... 1920x1080 at 30Hz

Modeline................ "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

Timing recommendation #3.... 720x480 at 60Hz

Modeline................ "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

Timing recommendation #4.... 1280x720 at 60Hz

Modeline................ "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

Timing recommendation #5.... 1440x240 at 60Hz

Modeline................ "1440x240" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 240 244 247 262 -hsync -vsync

Timing recommendation #6.... 1440x480 at 30Hz

Modeline................ "1440x480" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 480 488 494 524 interlace -hsync -vsync

Timing recommendation #7.... 720x480 at 60Hz

Modeline................ "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

Timing recommendation #8.... 1440x240 at 60Hz

Modeline................ "1440x240" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 240 244 247 262 -hsync -vsync

Timing recommendation #9.... 1440x480 at 30Hz

Modeline................ "1440x480" 27.000 1440 1478 1602 1716 480 488 494 524 interlace -hsync -vsync


Standard timings supported

640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA

720 x 480 at 60Hz - Hitachi

1280 x 720 at 60Hz - Hitachi

1440 x 240 at 60Hz - Hitachi

1440 x 480 at 30Hz - Hitachi

1920 x 540 at 60Hz - Hitachi

1920 x 1080 at 30Hz - Hitachi


Raw EDID base

00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 22 83 52 D7 00 00 00 00

10: 00 0D 01 03 80 10 09 50 0A 42 87 A8 57 4D A0 24

20: 0C 47 47 20 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01

30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 1D 80 18 71 1C 16 20 58 2C

40: 25 00 10 09 00 00 00 9E 8C 0A D0 8A 20 E0 2D 10

50: 10 3E 96 00 04 03 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 FC 00 48

60: 49 54 41 43 48 49 20 50 54 56 0A 20 00 00 00 FD

70: 00 3B 3D 0F 2E 08 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 C9


Raw EDID extension (CEA-861)

00: 02 01 04 00 01 1D 00 72 51 D0 1E 20 6E 28 55 00

10: 10 09 00 00 00 1E 8C 0A A0 14 51 F0 16 00 26 7C

20: 43 00 04 03 00 00 00 98 8C 0A D0 8A 20 E0 2D 10

30: 10 3E 96 00 10 09 00 00 00 18 8C 0A A0 14 51 F0

40: 16 00 26 7C 43 00 10 09 00 00 00 98 00 00 00 00

50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4A


Display adapter

Adapter description......... Auxiliary port

Adapter device ID........... 0x4E691002

Display settings............ n/a
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hey 1 more post :)

ITS FIXED!!!!


Im happy to resolve this, boy do i feel silly now, in the end it was something as simple as what jriver said, many thanks bud.


the DVI-D cable I was using had a bent pin on it :(


of course when i switched the cable to the PC it worked for some reason, i dunno why, but anyway upon further inspection i saw the sucker and with the aid of my girlfriends twizers i fixed it, ah this is awesome, thanks to everybody that helped :D
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