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Half SBS and Full SBS, can someone explain it?

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Charlie_P

Discussion Starter · Nov 10, 2010

I have a Sony 3d TV and my media player is the WDTV LIVE. I also have the Sony 3d blu-ray player.

I've found some MKV videos on the internet that are labeled as half SBS. I downloaded them and I can play them on the WDTV. The video has 2 frames side by side and when I manually switch the TV to 3D mode and select the side by side format, the frames become one and I get some awesome 3d!

So, i poked around more on the internet and found more stuff. Some labeled half SBS and some FULL SBS.

I was wondering in anyone can explain what is half SBS vs full SBS. Is it likely that if I'm able to play these half SBS full SBS will play also? What is half about the half sbs? Is the resolution half? Half of the source it was encoded from?

Sorry for the newb questions. I'd just like to get a grasp of what I'm looking at with this format. Thanks!

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Lee Stewart

· #2 · Nov 10, 2010

This is 1920x1080i SbS. When you see them on your 3DTV, they will be 960x1080i each.

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Charlie_P

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 10, 2010

Thanks.

So does that mean it is 1/2 the resolution? In other words 1/2 the quality?

So a FULL SBS two 1960x1080 side by side? I'm guessing the player (in my case a wdtv live) would need to support this very large resolution?

ejqly

· #4 · Nov 10, 2010

Yes Full SBS is 1920 x 1080p on both frames. So it's huge.

Lee Stewart

· #5 · Nov 10, 2010

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AFAIK, the only 3D format that gives you Full HD per eye is the frame packed format used for 3D BD:

SbS is one of the frame compatible 3D formats which uses a 1920x1080 frame to house 2 seperate frames. Another is Top/Bottom (aka Over/Under) which ESPN is using in the 1280x720 format. This results in 2 images each 1280x360:

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Charlie_P

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 10, 2010

Thanks so much. That is great information.

So about full SBS, those files can't be played back on a 3d TV because there is not enough resolution? Maybe if a PC was playing the file on the TV but then it would be down sampled to the TV resolution anyway. (?)

Lee Stewart

· #7 · Nov 10, 2010

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Originally Posted by Charlie_P /forum/post/19466711

Thanks so much. That is great information.

So about full SBS, those files can't be played back on a 3d TV because there is not enough resolution? Maybe if a PC was playing the file on the TV but then it would be down sampled to the TV resolution anyway. (?)

I never heard of SbS Full. Do you have a link you can post?

NSX1992

· #8 · Nov 10, 2010

Is there a difference between a ISO copy of a movie and an Half SBS copy? The Half SBS has about one third bytes so is the picture quality the same?

peter0328

· #9 · Nov 10, 2010

ISO=full 1080p per eye.

Half SBS=960x1080 per eye

Ettepet

· #10 · Nov 14, 2010

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart /forum/post/19467300

I never heard of SbS Full. Do you have a link you can post?

Isn't the Tron Legacy Trailer on www.biohemmet.se done in full SBS (3840*1080}?

I'm already trying to find out how to play it on my Samsung. Streaming?

BlackShark

· #11 · Nov 14, 2010

Full resolution side by side is pretty easy to find and use if your source is a computer.

The problem is if you intend to use stand alone hardware players that do not offer the flexibility a computer has.

With a computer you can store a 3D movie side by side, over/under or in separate files at any resolution and aspect ratio, be it half or full size, you could even have 4K full resolution 3D if you wanted to. The problem then isn't about the file, it's how to transmit the decoded picture to the display.

almostinsane

· #12 · Nov 14, 2010

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Originally Posted by Ettepet /forum/post/19486206

Isn't the Tron Legacy Trailer on www.biohemmet.se done in full SBS (3840*1080}?

I'm already trying to find out how to play it on my Samsung. Streaming?

Play it with a computer and stereoscopic player.

delt31

· #13 · Nov 14, 2010

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Originally Posted by NSX1992 /forum/post/19467318

Is there a difference between a ISO copy of a movie and an Half SBS copy? The Half SBS has about one third bytes so is the picture quality the same?

Can someone answer this? I would like to know

Ettepet

· #14 · Nov 14, 2010

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Originally Posted by almostinsane /forum/post/19486438

Play it with a computer and stereoscopic player.

Is there a way to get full stereoscopic resolution to my samsung 3D lcd? The player I downloaded doesn't seem to support a proper 'Blu-Ray 3D' like output through hdmi, but only half resolution SBS/etc.

Ettepet

· #15 · Nov 14, 2010

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Originally Posted by delt31 /forum/post/19486499

Can someone answer this? I would like to know

This was answered in post #9.

BlackShark

· #16 · Nov 14, 2010

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Originally Posted by Ettepet /forum/post/19486899

Is there a way to get full stereoscopic resolution to my samsung 3D lcd? The player I downloaded doesn't seem to support a proper 'Blu-Ray 3D' like output through hdmi, but only half resolution SBS/etc.

This is because the video player alone can't output to this format.

You have to use the "hdmi1.4-like" features of your graphics card.

If your graphics card is an Nvidia, you have to use Nvidia 3DTV play

If your graphics card is an ATi/AMD, you have to use AMD HD3D

almostinsane

· #17 · Nov 14, 2010

3DTV Play isn't needed for Blu-ray 3D. It's only needed for 3D gaming.

You need Power DVD or TMT to play a 3D Blu-ray ISO/Disc.

BlackShark

· #18 · Nov 15, 2010

He doesn't want to play a BluRay3D in a $100+ software.

Just play a full resolution FullHD 3D video.

Does Stereoscopic player Nvidia 3DTV output work for free or do you need to unlock 3DTV play to make it work ?

delt31

· #19 · Nov 15, 2010

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Originally Posted by Ettepet /forum/post/19486906

This was answered in post #9.

technically I can see that it's not 1080p per eye but when in comparison, is the quality diff noticeable?

icester

· #20 · Nov 15, 2010

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Originally Posted by BlackShark /forum/post/19487896

He doesn't want to play a BluRay3D in a $100+ software.

Just play a full resolution FullHD 3D video.

Does Stereoscopic player Nvidia 3DTV output work for free or do you need to unlock 3DTV play to make it work ?

Yes, 3DTV Play is the only way to output full HD 3D via HDMI 1.4 which is acceptable by all 3D TVs.

Mathew Orman

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