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What home automation devices do you most value being able to control from a remote or smartphone?

  • Door locks

    Votes: 13 17.1%
  • Power strips & receptacles

    Votes: 20 26.3%
  • Fans

    Votes: 24 31.6%
  • "Plug-in" lighting

    Votes: 30 39.5%
  • Wall switches and dimmers for integrated lighting

    Votes: 64 84.2%
  • Thermostats

    Votes: 38 50.0%
  • Blinds, curtains, etc

    Votes: 24 31.6%
  • "Look-in" cameras such as security cameras or baby monitors, etc

    Votes: 17 22.4%
  • Other: tell us what you're interested in!

    Votes: 5 6.6%
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Hi all,


I'm Sylvain from the Harmony Team at Logitech. Some of you may have seen my posts in the Harmony Ultimate & Harmony Smart Control threads. As some of you may know, Harmony Ultimate supports control of the Philips Hue lighting system. This a simple integration compared to many things discussed in AVS Forum, which leads me to a quick poll I'd like to post here.


This is less about the technology choices, and more focused on use cases that forum members are interested in.


Also, if any forum members are interested in more in-depth discussion with the Harmony Product Management team, please PM me. We're always looking for good discussion, and often provide free products in return.


Let the Harmony Team know you your thoughts!


Thanks,


Sylvain.
 

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If you are looking to do home automation I suggest integrating all of them. Also, if you could do different scenes with groups. Even adding multiple commands for pressing one button such as when I pause a movie, the lights turn on dimmed. Little things like that go a long way.
 

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Put your efforts back into controlling A/V equipment. Bring back the One (or a slightly revised Two).


Don't waste your energies going down a new road. Stick with what you know and can do very, very well. We don't need yet another abandoned product line (like Harmony was to be, and Squeezebox is).


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Originally Posted by Michael Sargent  /t/1487898/harmony-remotes-and-home-automation#post_23672977


Put your efforts back into controlling A/V equipment. Bring back the One (or a slightly revised Two).


Don't waste your energies going down a new road. Stick with what you know and can do very, very well. We don't need yet another abandoned product line (like Harmony was to be, and Squeezebox is).


Mike

Bad advice considering all of the new remotes are doing home automation and home automation is the future. This is why they lost a lot of customers because they all switch to the other remotes. I like the Harmony remotes and I am glad that they are doing something for home automation.
 

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Add back in Z-wave support. Dropping Z-wave support after the Harmony 890 is one of the main reasons I switched to a different brand for my primary remote.
 
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The biggest thing for me is lighting control. I just sold my z-wave dimmers and switched to IR dimmers so I could upgrade to the harmony ultimate and have smart phone control over everything. They work well, but controlling them is not as intuitive as I think it should be. When I start/stop an activity, the lights always turn on or change scenes, even when I don't want them to. I prefered how the software worked with my 890 with setting scenes based on an activity. Although I also like being able to change scenes within an activity.


Controlling/viewing my ecobee thermostat would be nice, but in reality I have it programmed so I don't ever have to adjust it.
 

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Originally Posted by eecyclone  /t/1487898/harmony-remotes-and-home-automation#post_23673072


The biggest thing for me is lighting control. I just sold my z-wave dimmers and switched to IR dimmers so I could upgrade to the harmony ultimate and have smart phone control over everything. They work well, but controlling them is not as intuitive as I think it should be. When I start/stop an activity, the lights always turn on or change scenes, even when I don't want them to. I prefered how the software worked with my 890 with setting scenes based on an activity. Although I also like being able to change scenes within an activity.


Controlling/viewing my ecobee thermostat would be nice, but in reality I have it programmed so I don't ever have to adjust it.

I always hated activity controlled light scenes. I don't always want the lights changing when I do something so I just make accessing the scene simple. Hit Watch a Movie and there is a Dim Lights shortcut nearby. With my URC remote I have the scene control as a press and hold which solves this annoyance. If I want the lights to dim when going to Watch a Movie then I simply hold down the button when clicking the activity and the lights will dim, if I just click the button then it just switches to the activity and leaves the lighting alone.
 

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I needed a remote for my non-techie family members who easily took to the One. I don't think any of the new line of remotes would be accepted or understood by my low-tech friends and family members.
 

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I mentioned dimmers and lighting, but I'd also include thermostats. That would be a nice gain, too. But I'll reiterate what others said here - I have a One and a 700, and I dread the day either one dies, and I have to get a Touch, particularly for the One, which is used for the home theater in a darkened environment. Buttons are not bad!
 

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Originally Posted by bryansj  /t/1487898/harmony-remotes-and-home-automation#post_23673050


Add back in Z-wave support. Dropping Z-wave support after the Harmony 890 is one of the main reasons I switched to a different brand for my primary remote.
Exactly. Z-wave was a great idea and had a lot of potential. Dropping it years ago then trying to reinvent the wheel now is puzzling. Although it has potential, Philip's system is far more limited.


Zigbee is another protocol that has a lot of potential and is very cheap to implement. If you're going to reinvent the wheel, I'd start there.
 

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Zigbee AND Z-Wave would be ideal. Zigbee also has the RF4CE standard that would be great to support.


One huge thing that would be ideal for me is the ability to have a custom RS-232 and/or TCP/IPinterface that I could program to do anything I wanted. I've been looking for a hardware remote to integrate with a DIY home automation system. The Harmony remotes look like great products but I'm having a hard time being motivated to make the purchase until I know I can use them for what I want to use them for.


I like that the Harmony remotes can do what they can do, but I want to be able to have custom buttons and labels and program my own custom instructions for those buttons to send custom instructions out the RS-232 port. Then I can interface with anything else I want, be it a custom controller to zigbee or z-wave. Those custom buttons might be for shades or for a ceiling fan or "pour me a whiskey sour"



I would also like to be able to have multiple remotes reporting back to a base station or something. Some way to differentiate between remotes. This might be possible already though.
 

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please add macros / sequences (at least to the 900) - that will go a long way as well!
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Keep hard buttons for those who like to use a remote more by feel and easier one-handed operation
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The biggest thing for me is lighting control.
I had used a 880 & 1000 when they first released many years ago, and currently, my house has 3 900 remotes. I've voted and also highlighted the above replies that also are on my "wish list" for your remote.


Macros is one of the biggest thing for home automation and the "wow" effect. I, also, am an user that prefer hard button than touch screen too. And I'm currently using Insteon solution for my lighting control need. A native Harmony dimmer switch that doesn't need any extra part to control from the remote would be much simpler & nicer.
 

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Thank you for taking this poll everyone - and for the great feedback. Please keep it coming!
 

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Originally Posted by bryansj  /t/1487898/harmony-remotes-and-home-automation#post_23673191


I always hated activity controlled light scenes. I don't always want the lights changing when I do something so I just make accessing the scene simple. Hit Watch a Movie and there is a Dim Lights shortcut nearby. With my URC remote I have the scene control as a press and hold which solves this annoyance. If I want the lights to dim when going to Watch a Movie then I simply hold down the button when clicking the activity and the lights will dim, if I just click the button then it just switches to the activity and leaves the lighting alone.

This is similar to how I have it set up now. I have a shortcut at the top of my harmony ultimate touchscreen for Lights on/lights dim/lights off. But I can't exactly figure out the power settings for my "lighting controller" device so they are constantly dimming and brightening when changing activities. I have the device set to "leave device on all the time" and I programmed dummy power on/power off commands but they still like to brighten or dim. I guess I'll have to play with it more but I still wish that the harmony would recognize that the lighting controller has different device settings than other components where you typically turn it ON when you turn all your other devices OFF, and turn the lights OFF when you turn your components ON.
 

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Getting into home automation is an ambitious endeavor. There are a lot of companies doing it, but none of them do it with a simple and really slick interface. This forum has a lot of viewers who are comfortable doing modest set up for themselves. I'm one. Home automation is an intimidating area if you can't write code, which I can't. I'm struggling to find a controller I'm comfortable with. I think there is a big market for someone who can make it simple and with an attractive interface.
 

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Old thread but I figured I'd give it a bump. I want simpler Z-wave intergration with Harmony.

But the biggest thing, why would you stop making the One and go with a tiny, hard to keep in your hand, easy to F-up with the overly sensative touchscreen Ultimate? If you put the touch screen, without the soft tough function buttons that always get hit by accident, into the body of the One (or 900 with the 4 colot buttons_ then you'd have the BEST remote. I own a One, my friend the Ultimate. I won't ever buy the Ultimate even though I like most of it's newer functionality. The One fits like a glove, gives me control over everything I need with real actual buttons and the lay-down charger is far better. How does the Harmony team change to a specific TV channel when curled up on the couch snuggled under a blanket in the dark? Nevermind how does my blind Aunt use a soft key numberpad.
 

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I'm with u, still waiting for Harmony to wake up, drop the horrible existing design and go back to what worked. Just hope my 890 holds on..
 
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