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I thought it was time to try and start an all-imcompassing Connecticut HDTV thread. The main purpose is to let people know what's available and help each other with information on choosing how to best receive HD.


The following is the status of Digital OTA broadcasting as of October 18, 2003 according to antennaweb.org


WTXX-DT 12 WB Waterbury CT Now Live

WTIC-DT 31 FOX Hartford CT Nov 1 2003

WEDH-DT 32 PBS Hartford CT Awaiting FCC Permit

WFSB-DT 33 CBS Hartford CT Now Live

WVIT-DT 35 NBC New Britain CT Dec 15 2003

WUVN-DT 46 SAH Hartford CT Now Live

WEDY-DT 6 PBS New Haven CT Testing

WTNH-DT 10 ABC New Haven CT Now Live

WHPX-DT 34 PAX New London CT Now Live

WCTX-DT 39 UPN New Haven CT Now Live

WSAH-DT 42 SAH Bridgeport CT Awaiting FCC Permit

WWLP-DT 11 NBC Springfield MA Now Live

WEDN-DT 45 PBS Norwich CT Now Live

WGBY-DT 58 PBS Springfield MA Now Live



Of the Big 4 networks, it seems that CT viewer's only HD bright spot is ABC and WTNH DT. They broadcast a strong HD signal that most people have no trouble getting. For CBS, WFSB DT has been broadcasting for a while, but they are broadcasting at low power. For those who do receive the signal, many report that the sound is very low. The latest from WFSB seems to be that they are hoping to be at full power by the end of the year. I have one thing to say to WFSB, The Superbowl is Feb 1st. There will be plenty of very upset viewers if they are not full power for the Superbowl. No FOX or NBC yet. All I know about those two are the target dates listed above.


Keep in mind, In many areas of the country, Digital stations are only broadcast in UHF, but here in CT, some stations are VHF. WTXX 12, WTNH 10, WEDY 6, and out of MA, WWLP 11. So for us we need a combination UHF/VHF antenna.


It seems that most of the stations are/will be broadcasting from two tower clusters. Could someone please post where the station transmitters are?


Could people please post your experience with OTA signals? If we could post where your live, Receiver Model, antenna brand and model, then channel and signal strength, that would be great.


I am just getting started. I have only tried indoor antennas so far with not much luck. My results so far:


Cromwell, CT

DTC100 receiver:

Simple Rabbit Ears: received only WTNH DT with a signal strength of around 65. Monday Night Football in HD is awesome!

Silver Sensor UHF antenna- Nothing


I know CT cable companies are starting to carry some HD channels too. If people could add who their cable company is and what channels they receive, that would be great.


Many of you know more than me on this subject so please correct anything I have wrong, and add anything that you think is important. I'm hoping that this thread can provide one stop HD information for all of us. Thanks.
 

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It seems that most of the stations are/will be broadcasting from two tower clusters. Could someone please post where the station transmitters are?

Map of transmitters:
 

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Thanks Andy,


That's a great map! I wonder why antennaweb has WTIC DT as 317 degrees from me and and the others you have listed from that same spot at 316?
 

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Glad to finally see this thread. I'm in Farmington very close to the Rattlesnake Mountain complex. This is what I pick up for DTV/HD with my Hughes E-86 and my attic mounted Winegard PR-7015 combination VHF/UHF antenna (with ChannelMaster 9251A remote contolled rotor). No amplification at all. Sub channels included where applicable.


WFSB-DT Hartford (CBS) 33-1 (SD upconvert) and 33-3 (HD) - Signal Strength 100% (Channels remap to 3-1 and 3-3 respectively)


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WTNH New Haven (ABC) 10-1 HD, 10-2 (Doppler Radar) 10-3 (Sports Ticker) - Signal Strength 93-100% (Channels remap to 8-1, 8-2 and 8-3 respectively)


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WTXX Waterbury (WB) 12-1 (HD when applicable) - Signal Strength 100% (Transmits from Farmington, CT) (Channel remaps to 20-1)


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WCTX New Haven (UPN) 39-1 (SD upconvert) - Signal Strength 44-65% (Channel remaps to 59-1)


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WWLP Springfield (NBC) 11-1 (SD upconvert) and 11-3 (HD) - Signal Strength 37-58% (Channels remap to 22-1 and 22-3 respectively)


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WGGB Springfield (ABC) 55-1 (SD upconvert) Signal strength 37-51% (Channel remaps to 40-1)


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WGBY Springfield (PBS) 58-1 (HD), 58-2 PBS Kids Upconvert, 58-3 PBS West Upconvert and 58-4 PBSYou Upconvert - Signal Strength 27-44% (Channels remap to 57-1, 57-2, 57-3 and 57-4 respectively)


WGBY runs the PBS demo during primetime. During the day it runs an upconvert of analog 57 but without audio. They are installing equipment to remedy that. WGBY was very spotty over the summer.


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WUVN-DT 46 (Univision) has also gone live from Hartford, but I have only checked signal strength (100%) I do not know about programming but thought it was worth mentioning. (Channel remaps to 18-1)


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As mentioned in another thread, antennaweb.org says that WTIC-DT is scheduled to go live on Nov 1st, anybody heard anything?


The main reason though for this post is to see if there is any place locally that sells Channelmaster UHF antennas that allows returns? I guess allowing returns is probably a rare thing with antennas right? I am trying to get an antenna to try in the attic.


The catch is that my attic is made from trusses so there is no way I could put up a big combination antenna. I guess Radio Shack lets you return antennas, but I don't think any decent antenna that they have would fit in my attic. Maybe a small Yagi might fit? It seems that one of those ChannelMaster 4 bay Bowtie type antennas might work best but I don't know who sells them locally. Will trusses interfere with the signal? Thanks.
 

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The main reason though for this post is to see if there is any place locally that sells Channelmaster UHF antennas that allows returns? I guess allowing returns is probably a rare thing with antennas right? I am trying to get an antenna to try in the attic.

According to the channel master website, Lowe's sells them as does Signal Electronic Supply in West Hartford. signalelectronics.com


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I have been emailing WCTX about their plans to pass Enterprise and Jake 2.0 in HD but I never received a response. I sent an email to a contact at WTNH (WCTX's LIN sister station) and received this reply today:


"At this time we are unable to pass true HD. We are currently in the process of completing the project that will enable us to pass true High Def."



I think every DT station that is not on-line is in this same process.
 

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Shizno,


Thanks for the info, I tried Signal Electronics but was kind of turned off by the guy that helped me. I also checked Lowes website, and it looks like they only have the big UHF/VHF combo antennas that I can't try in the attic. Since Radio Shack allows returns, I was thinking of trying a yagi style 150-2160 UHF only. I hope to use a good UHF antenna coupled with a small, cheap, simple VHF one.


I'm sure most people in CT have the same antenna issues as me. Distance from the towers is not the problem but terrain blockage is. I think there are a number of hills between me and the towers that will cause me problems. I thought I would get a weak signal from a Silver Sensor temporarily placed outside, but I got nothing with it. My goal is to get a decent signal from WFSB-DT while they are at low power. That way, I figure that when it goes full power and when WTIC and WVIT go on-line, I should be all set.


Right now, choices that I'm looking at include a ChannelMaster 3010 Stealthtenna (I am skeptical about that design), a ChannealMaster Bow-tie style 3021 (Also called 4221), and the Radio Shack one listed above. Anyone have any suggestions?


Hey Such, can you share any more information with us on how you know about the Fox date being wrong?
 

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The date is December. Got it first hand from the CTO of Tribune Broadcasting this morning. They will be passing 480P day 1, and will pass 720P in September when Fox flips their switch nationally.
 

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Shizno,



Right now, choices that I'm looking at include a ChannelMaster 3010 Stealthtenna (I am skeptical about that design),



This is the antenna I use currently, roof mounted on a two story cape in Manchester.


I get:


WFSB (CBS) at about 90%

WTNH(ABC) at about 85%

WWLP (NBC) at about 65%

WTXX (WB) at about 95%

WGBY (PBS)at about 35-50%

Don't know about the others.


I can't seem to get WGGB out of Springfield so it may have to do with the antenna direction, haven't really investigated as I get most everything I currently need. That and the roof is a bit steep...


shizno


edit: I use no amplifier, although I have been thinking of trying one out.
 

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Shizno,


Thanks for the info, I tried Signal Electronics but was kind of turned off by the guy that helped me. I also checked Lowes website, and it looks like they only have the big UHF/VHF combo antennas that I can't try in the attic. Since Radio Shack allows returns, I was thinking of trying a yagi style 150-2160 UHF only. I hope to use a good UHF antenna coupled with a small, cheap, simple VHF one.


I'm sure most people in CT have the same antenna issues as me. Distance from the towers is not the problem but terrain blockage is. I think there are a number of hills between me and the towers that will cause me problems. I thought I would get a weak signal from a Silver Sensor temporarily placed outside, but I got nothing with it. My goal is to get a decent signal from WFSB-DT while they are at low power. That way, I figure that when it goes full power and when WTIC and WVIT go on-line, I should be all set.


Right now, choices that I'm looking at include a ChannelMaster 3010 Stealthtenna (I am skeptical about that design), a ChannealMaster Bow-tie style 3021 (Also called 4221), and the Radio Shack one listed above. Anyone have any suggestions?


Hey Such, can you share any more information with us on how you know about the Fox date being wrong?

I am in the same situation as you in that I have a truss roof structure in my attic and for that reason I'm looking at the CM 4221 - 8 bay bow tie antenna. Same issue, no one sells it locally that will allow a return that I've found. BUT, I did find the CM 4 bay bow tie listed in a catalog at a True Value hardware store. The sales rep stated that it was a standard product for them (not special order) and therefore I could return it. At the time, I was still interested in the 8 bay feeling I would need the added gain living 30-40 miles from Hartford. Alas, the 8 bay was a special order and not returnable. Go figure? You might want to try your local T.V. store if the 4-bay will work for you. They had the 4-bay listed as a CM 3021 I think.


Chris


Edit 1: 8-bay is CM4228; 4-bay is CM 4221/ CM 3021 per Solid Signal.
 

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Well, according to that map (nice, BTW) I can get PBS and PAX without too much difficulty. The others will be tough though. I tried a radio shack indoor and didn't get boo.


Thinking I might give the outdoor thing a shot, but the wife would have a cow if she had to turn a knob to dial in the channel.


Decisions, decisions, decisions. I just want a stinking waiver from CBS and ABC locals which I know I'll never get.
 

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For whatever it is worth, I am in Milford, CT and use a CM 4224 (on roof) and a CM 7777 amp and a rotator. During the summer I would have difficulty getting FOX and CBS from NYC, but now I am able to get them most of the time rannging from 35-70 on the meter. I can always get WTNH over 90 and PBS from Bridgeport around 90 and PBS from Long Island will be over 70. I cant even get WFSB to be a blip on the radar here in Milford. I am anxiously waiting for the CT channels to get going from Rattlesnake mountain so that I can utilize both fronts depending on the weather for each day!!! Also, forgot to mention I am using a RCA DTC100.
 

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Thinking I might give the outdoor thing a shot, but the wife would have a cow if she had to turn a knob to dial in the channel.

I have a remote control rotor that can be controlled with my universal remote. Type in the channel # and the antenna turns and you don't even have to get up from the couch!


Very wife friendly
 

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I am in the same situation as you in that I have a truss roof structure in my attic and for that reason I'm looking at the CM 4221 - 8 bay bow tie antenna. Same issue, no one sells it locally that will allow a return that I've found. BUT, I did find the CM 4 bay bow tie listed in a catalog at a True Value hardware store. The sales rep stated that it was a standard product for them (not special order) and therefore I could return it. At the time, I was still interested in the 8 bay feeling I would need the added gain living 30-40 miles from Hartford. Alas, the 8 bay was a special order and not returnable. Go figure? You might want to try your local T.V. store if the 4-bay will work for you. They had the 4-bay listed as a CM 3021 I think.


Chris


Edit 1: 8-bay is CM4228; 4-bay is CM 4221/ CM 3021 per Solid Signal.

Chris,


Thanks for that info, I will definitely check out some True Value stores. By the way folks, I called Signal Electronics back yesterday to get a price on the 4221, and the guy that helped me this time was very helpful. He was a real nice guy who really sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
 

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I bought my antennas in Wooster, MA (40 minutes from Hartford) Good salesman and everything is in stock. I will look up the name of the place, can't recall it right now, and post it when I return from a family vacation. Very happy to see this thread. I will post my OTA reception, channels, strength, antennas, receiver etc. when I return.


We are all in this together.


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I'm in Norwalk and using a DTC-100 along with the $22 Radio Shack outdoor UHF antenna (U-75R) mounted on the eave of a 2-story cape. My back yard faces west-southwest and is surrounded by large pine and maple trees. This is nice for privacy, but it's the worst possible scenario for satellite and NYC OTA reception.


Originally I could get WTNH no problem, and NY CBS and FOX would come in but frequently drop out. So I added a ChannelMaster 7777 amp and now I can pick up NY CBS and FOX without dropouts. It's nice because where I am, WTNH and WCBS are almost 180° from eachother. I can keep my antenna pointed towards the Empire State Building, and pick up CBS & FOX, and still get a good signal for ABC (WTNH). However I cannot get anything for the UPN station in New Haven (WCTX), no matter where I point the antenna. Not even a blip! Is this a power issue? If so how much power are they putting out? I think the 4 watts on my CB radio is more powerful!


Regarding cable- here in lower Fairfield County Cablevision is the only choice. If you have the iO service, you can request an HD box (it's free but requires a service call), and get CBS HD and PBS HD with any package, but no other networks yet. People with Cablevision in New York are able to get the NY FOX widescreen, but I read elsewhere it may be because there is not sufficient bandwidth on the uplink from NY to CT. Who knows if this is true. I also understand there are some FCC rules that say the cable companies have to provide the HD locals on the same basic tier as the analog channels. Cablevision wants to charge $10 extra for the "iO service" in order to get these channels. It seems a little fishy to me, I don't even know if you can order the old service anymore. I've always been jerked around by cablevision which is why I have satellite.
 

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As the "somewhat official" thread for HDTV in CT, I have not seen any reference to COX cable and their HD capabilities. I live in Enfield, and HD is available with basic channels (ESPNHD, DiscHD, HBO, SHO and INHD soon). Does anyone out there have the COX HD installed yet? Any info on when we might get broadcast channels - NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX etc.? Seems like Comcast is way ahead of COX in HD content - unfortunate for us with COX! Any info on COX HD would be appreciated. I have not invested in my HDTV yet waiting for more HD content, but I have this money burning a hole in my pocket, just waiting to be spent! Thanks, BOB
 
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