[ifunk]

Just got a quote for BenQ 6200 and Pana 300, both around $1.5K. Without getting in depth on technologies, specs comparasions, can you tell me which yield the best PQ out of the box for these scenarios?


1) BQ6200 + excellent progressive scan DVD (which I already have Pana 91K) vs. Pana 300 + Bravo DVD via DVI.


2) 1080i via Toshiba HDTV receiver; I love KQED channel 9-1 (stunning picture)!


If you have other suggestions for a $1500 budget, pls let me know. Thx!

 

[mpilon]

X1 ?

 

[Huey]

 http://www.tigerdirect.com/images/it...333-1006-a.jpg


Seems to me L300u has better connectivity with 16:9, 960X540, LCD, DVI, VGA, and Component.




On the other hand, 6200 is a great 4:3 XGA DLP with 2000:1 contrast and 1700 lumens (compared to 800:1 contrast and 800 lumens of L300u). You will have black bars with 16:9 tittles but it will be very dark and with masking it should be a nonissue.


Personally, I would go with the 6200 as I've always been a XGA DLP fan (better resolution (1024X576 for the 16:9 portion of the XGA panel). DVI is nice to have but not a must (VGA and component is very good).

Edited... please refrain from posting specific vendor and pricing information.

 

[jcebedo1]

well, if possible i would go with sharp dt 200 + used anamorphic lens.

 

[freychris42424]

Don't forgot you get a free bulb w/6200 and even though many people on the forum say never chose a pj based on it, I guess those people have an extra 400 bucks they need to blow.


Chris

 

[msieweke]

Also consider an Optoma H30, which is getting glowing reports.


Very few people have seen the Benq 6200, so it's hard to say how it will perform. It could be a stellar performer, but there's no way to know yet.


The Panasonic 300 is a nice projector, but it's last year's model. The calibrated contrast is around 400-500:1. It has less screen door than most LCDs, but more than the current DLPs. It has the usual LCD panel alignment issues. Mine has developed a magenta cast in the bottom of the picture, and some others are seeing different color uniformity issues. I'm generally pleased with it, but I'd happily trade it for an X1. I've seen it back-to-back with an X1 and I think the picture quality is comparable.

 

[ifunk]

Thanks everyone for the input! I read-up on X1, Sharp DT200, and Optoma. I think they are more comparable to BenQ 6100 from the specs perspectives.


1) Sharp DT200: SVGA 600*800, 600 ANSI, 1200:1, 100" from 12'3, DLP .55", 2500 HRS lamp life, 29 DB, DVI input, 1 yrs warr.


2) Optoma H30: SVGA 600*800 (max 1280*1024), 800 ANSI, 2000:1, 100" from 14'2, DLP .6", 2000 HRS lamp life, 32 DB, no DVI, 2 yrs warr., 4x wheel.


3) BenQ 6200: XGA 1024*768 (max 1280*1024), 1700 ANSI, 2000:1, 100" from 16'6, DLP .7", 3000 HRS lamp life, 34 DB, no DVI, 3 yrs warr., 3x wheel, free bulb.


If SVGA and XGA PJs have similar "max" resolution = 1280*1024, and their price ranges is around $1000-1200 for SVGA and $1600 and up for XGA, is there any value-add to the additional "native" resolution when my primary sources are 480p and 1080i ?? In other words, how do I correlate 480p and 1080i output to native/max resolutions ??


Thx!

 

[timctx]

Why not just pick up a 6100 while the rebate is on. By the time you get to 3000 hours an XGA projector with better contrast should be available for around $1000.


I have the X1 and love it but may pick up a 6100 for the increased brightness.


If you plan on sitting closer than 1.5x the screen size you might need to go with the 6200 other than that does not seem worth the extra $600 or so.


Just my $.02

 

[rlindo]

here is my advice...always go for the higher resolution all other things being pretty much equal. Trust me, the higher res even on stuff like dvd actually offers an improvement...and I say this as a guy who used to think higher res than wvga for dvd viewing wouldn't matter but in my last two upgrades I have proven myself wrong.


Yikes, that dB noise rating for the 6200 is very high. I hope in its low brightness mode it reduces it big time because IMO, 34dB would be annoying.


If you can swing an extra 200 or 300 bucks I'd say go for the Z2 or L500 especially since you plan to be using the pj for HD material. If not then I say go for the Benq 6200.

 

[Daekwan]

Go for the high rez and lumen output of the 6200. More pratical use.


Dont worry about the noise. 34 db's isnt necessarily inaudible. But how many movies, tv shows do you actually watch with the sound on MUTE?


I've demo'ed the X1 (which is louder than the 6200 I beleive) for 5 days with the projector sitting 1 foot beside my head and not once did the fan noise bother me or any of my several guests.. not to mention it couldnt be heard at all over the normal audio levels when watching movies and tv..

 

[jcebedo1]

i hightly doubt that the benq 6200 will have the blacks and color saturation of either the dt-200 or h30. it is RGBW instead of RGBRGB. so even though you get increased resolution, you comromise colors and contrast. and that is what i have seen from experience.

 

[guitarman]

"doubt the benq 6200 will have the blacks and color saturation of either the dt-200 or h30."


Definetly good points jcdbedo1 now that you're seen the difference the colorwheel makes.


Too bad they don't make a six segment color wheeled XGA projector for $1500.


I'd add the Optoma EZ-Pro 737 to the mix. At least is has a feature to turn off the white segment. Projector central did a shootout on it and the Dell, both XGA and both with available white segment adjustment. But they liked the colors better on the Optoma. Although they said these aren't stellar for HT.

 

[jcebedo1]

the rgbw wheels can be improved once you tweak them. but most people just won't go that route anyways.

 

[ifunk]

Revised summary:


1) Sharp DT200: SVGA 600*800, 600 ANSI, 1200:1, 100" from 12'3, DLP .55", 2500 HRS lamp life, 29 DB, DVI input, 1 yrs warr., ?x RGBRGB wheel.


2) Optoma H30: SVGA 600*800 (max 1280*1024), 800 ANSI, 2000:1, 100" from 14'2, DLP .6", 2000 HRS lamp life, 32 DB, no DVI, 2 yrs warr., 4x wheel RGBRGB.


3) Infocus X1: SVGA 600*800 (max 1280*1024), 1100 ANSI, 2000:1, 100" from 15'2, DLP .6", 2000 HRS lamp life, 37 DB, no DVI, 2 yrs warr., ?x wheel.


4) BenQ 6100: SVGA 600*800 (max 1280*1024), 1500 ANSI, 2000:1, 100" from 16'6, DLP .6", 3000 HRS lamp life, 34 DB, no DVI, 3 yrs warr., 3x wheel RGBW, $100 rebate.


5) BenQ 6200: XGA 1024*768 (max 1280*1024), 1700 ANSI, 2000:1, 100" from 16'6, DLP .7", 3000 HRS lamp life, 34 DB, no DVI, 3 yrs warr., 3x wheel RGBW, free bulb.


6) Optoma EzPro 737: XGA 1024*768 (max 1280*1024), 1500 ANSI, 1800:1, 100" from 16', DLP .7", 2000 HRS lamp life, 32+ DB, (DVI) MI-DA (P&D), 3 yrs warr., 3x wheel, $2200 + range.


I supposed SVGA PJs are ~$1000 while XGA PJs are $2000+, and the only exception is the BenQ 6200 at $1500.

 

[Mr. I]

Might want to add the new Dell 4100MP

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Dell-4100MP.htm at $2,099 (MSRP)


No color wheel speed info.

 

[nosdmi]

I called Dell - color speed is 2x.

 

[drmoss]

I think that many of us who are reading and posting on this thread are basing our decisions heavily on the color wheel speed and segment specs. Plus, I doubt that any who are really sensitive to rainbows are going to be interested in a 2x or maybe even a 3x speed. I think most of us are looking to the latest 4x and 5x models, and my intent is to create a list including those models.


I do know that the Sharp DT200 and Z90 are both SVGA 5x six-segment, and I believe they are unique in their price class with that speed. I'm trying to find out what else is out there I am unaware of. Perhaps there are new models that have yet to ship that we can list as well. For me, a 4x wheel speed is my absolute minimum that I can tolerate, but a 5x would be better, as it would decrease the frequency of perceived rainbows even more.

 

[ace5000]

Definatly go DLP - big difference vs LCD. Smoother apperance, more realistic colors, etc.

 

[mphinne2]

"Definatly go DLP - big difference vs LCD. Smoother apperance, more realistic colors, etc."


I think a lot of people will disagree with you.

 

[cabreau]

I disagree with him. Out of the two LCD's and two DLP's that I have brought home from work...the LCD's seem to have much better color. The DLP's definitely produced a smoother picture (almost an OUT OF FOCUS look).


I don't like the 2x rainbows that I see (wondering if the X1's movie mode, which does BLACK instead of WHITE on the RGBW wheel, would help me to not see the rainbows).