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Thanks jkoz,
So you set your color by blue filter? do you trust this method over the Calman software?
So you set your color by blue filter? do you trust this method over the Calman software?
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Originally Posted by PeterLewis /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22864019
Thanks jkoz,
So you set your color by blue filter? do you trust this method over the Calman software?
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Originally Posted by sodaboy581 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1230#post_22863597
I can vouch for this as well.
I had been doing my calibrations with my i1Display Pro using ColorHCFR. I set up everything correctly, even the little advanced check boxes and so on, but I'd still detect the calibration was a little more red than I thought it should be.
I went ahead and purchased CalMAN Basic and started doing calibrations with it. I did both my Asus PA246Q monitor and Sony KDL60EX645. The red push I was getting with ColorHCFR was gone.
So, I agree that there is definitely something up with ColorHCFR and the i1Display Pro's calibration.
I noted this in another thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444311/official-sony-kdl60ex645-thread/60#post_22852255
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Originally Posted by Make73 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22866407
Really?![]()
Sadly JohAd is disappeard so there´s no hope that it will be fixed.
Is CalMAN Basic enough, so it does same thing than HCFR or do I need control version?
Does it work with retail version of i1 Display Pro or do I need to give serial of meter or something to get it working?
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Originally Posted by jkozlow3 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1230#post_22863522
Personally, I don't think profiling the i1D3 against another meter should be necessary. It's a very accurate meter by itself, as proven by the links posted above.
The reason that calibrations appear too red without profiling the i1D3 (or without adding an adjustment matrix) is because HCFR and/or the Argyll drivers are doing something incorrectly. I say this with confidence, as I've compared a simple greyscale calibration side-by-side with HCFR and Calman using 2 different color temp presets in the service menu of my Panasonic (picture mode and everything else was equal) and the Calman calibration was visibly better. Skin tones were less red and looked more realistic with the Calman calibration as I flipped back and forth. Not night and day better, but definitely noticeable by eye.
It's not profiling that we need - it's different software.
My $.02
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Originally Posted by Make73 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1140#post_22709119
You don´t need to do that because you have matrix correction (correction for plasma display type is included in that matrix...thx zoyd).![]()
Just choose "Display Type : i1D3 Refresh display"
Leave "Spectral sample" empty/none
Load your matrix "Advanced-->XYZ coordinates adjustment matrix-->manually edit XYZ conversion matrix-->Load" and ready to go.
(Sync i1D3 with your TV at IRE30 window by pressing calibrate from sensor configure.)
However if you have not ever used command prompt it´s like this:
cd..
cd..
cd program files (x86)
cd hcfr calibration
cd tools
i1d3ccss
Oh, thanks![]()
There is two different matrixes for i1D3 created with Panasonic plasma against i1Pro meter.
Gonna try those.
Here are all those six matrix correction .mhc files for i1 Display Pro(3) with plasma TV which I found:
Matrix for i1DPro(3) or CM Display with plasma.zip 2k .zip file
Made calibration with "Panasonic plasma 1 matrix for i1D3 against i1Pro from Argyll database.mhc" matrix and finally I´m happy to results![]()
Panasonic TX-P55ST50Y calibration.zip 28k .zip file
Some more calibrations when I´ll get new panel under warranty because of burn-in.
Interesting to see how new panel affects to settings.
However that goes till February because Panasonic couldn´t deliver that quicker to Finland and I´ll do some running in before calibration.
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Originally Posted by Rob67 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22867367
Is there a way to open these mhc files to add the correction tables to CalMAN?
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Originally Posted by PeterLewis /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22864019
Thanks jkoz,
So you set your color by blue filter? do you trust this method over the Calman software?
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Originally Posted by spongebob /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22867488
Calman uses the blue filter
bob
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Originally Posted by Rob67 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22867367
Is there a way to open these mhc files to add the correction tables to CalMAN?
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Originally Posted by zoyd /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22868063
the matrix correction used in HCFR is different than that used in either CalMAN or CP, HCFR corrects for Y luminance offset between the reference and target meters. So if you use the matrix values generated by HCFR in the other two programs (or vice versa) then will not yield the same measurements.
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Originally Posted by Make73 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22871346
zoyd,
What is your experience about HCFR 3.x.x, does it measure something wrong, especially red?
Those who paid for matrix delivered with meter, I suppose it´s not created with HCFR![]()
(Like I wrote, I copied that matrix from Argyll database and with that it seems to be very nice, no redish white balance. So I think not gonna pay 150$ for CalMan. Things may be different if I had paid for matrix and white balance looks redish because of [email protected] measure faults)
btw, Got my 55ST50 set back with new panel week ago (changed under warranty because of burn-in), I´ll drive 200h break-in slides and recalibrating. If someone is interested to see how different panel affects to settings I can post new measurements day after tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by realzven /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22871927
where is your matrix you choose to calibrate your ST50 ?
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Originally Posted by Make73 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22872754
I wrote that earlier and it´s quoted few posts back, it´s named "Panasonic plasma 1 matrix for i1D3 against i1Pro from Argyll database.mhc".
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Originally Posted by spongebob /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22876423
Where is the excel spreadsheet in this thread?
thx
bob
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Originally Posted by realzven /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22876639
this one ? http://www.avsforum.com/attachments/66073
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Originally Posted by Make73 /t/1393853/fork-of-hcfr-started-whats-needed/1260#post_22866407
Really?![]()
Sadly JohAd is disappeard so there´s no hope that it will be fixed.