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This is a list of titles on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray who have been suggested/verified to show EE/ringing (edge enhancement, sharpening) and/or DNR (digital noise/grain reduction) processing and/or aliasing and/or ITC issues (incorrect progressive picture from film source) or other technical anomalies due to mastering and not due to the film master itself. This list is being further added to as new information becomes available.

The complete list is always in this posting.

This thread is not for basic discussion of what EE and DNR etc. is or if this type of processing or artifact is good or bad, distracting or not distracting. That can be discussed elsewhere. This list is for people who know what it is, what it looks like and have decided that they don't like it and want to avoid discs having (a lot of) it. This list is also not about the "format war" as EE and DNR etc. can as easily appear on HD-DVD as on BR. It's not a format issue.

This is also NOT a list of the 'worst' HD disks out there (although some examples on this list arguably are among the worst HD released so far). It's simply a list of disks and some technical issues that have been identified on them. The extent and visibility of the issue can vary from disk to disk and of course also from display to display as people watch the disk. As such we don't give a rating of good or bad but merely confirm the presence of the 'artifact' (although the original submitter is free to express his personal judgement of the transfer in the comment section). What people make out of it on their systems is their call.

Why this list? There are enough reviews of discs elsewhere, no? Unfortunately I'm not aware of sources elsewhere on the net that tell us if there is DNR and/or EE etc. with any kind of accuracy and reliability, title by title. This list is supposed to be such a source, as incomplete as it will be at least for now.

Finally, the list does not try to list each and every instance of a (perceived) technical problem on all discs released. The issues have to reach a certain level of frequency and severity for the disc to be listed. Where to draw the line is ultimately subjective and the decision of the thread owner.

Data accepted for each title affected is

- Film title

- Disc details (HD-DVD/BR, year, country, studio)

- Problem type (EE/DNR/Aliasing/ITC/Banding)

- Some time codes of frames that show the problem clearly

- Free text as required to quantify the problem further (how strong, what kind of artifacts, how frequent etc.)

- if available URLs to images that illustrate the problems (direct digital with 1:1 pixel mapping only, no snapshots of screens or processed images beyond high quality jpeg compression)

As a minimum to get a listing film title, disc details and some time codes or examples are required. Free text is encouraged to roughly describe the extent of the processing.

No contributions please unless you are sure your display chain itself is free of EE (including rescaling), Banding and DNR and you watch at least with 720p resolution, better 1080p, though. And from close enough and/or projected large. For aliasing claims you MUST use a 1080p display with 1:1 pixel mapping (you should use that anyway for verification of all claims).

The rest of the thread is for discussion of individual discs in case findings on the list are disputed.

If you have new titles to add you can post them here too and I will process them.

Finally, the comments are by the various submitters of the data and not one person, so some inconsistencies are inevitable (several "worst I have ever seen" etc.)


The list is alphabetical by film title (ignoring articles).


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Title: 1408 (2007)

Studio: Dutch Filmworks

Disc: HD-DVD (EU), BD (USA)

Problem: Jaggies

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Probably an incorrect filtering job from the DI.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4

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Title: 3:10 to Yuma (2007)

Studio: Lionsgate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Y and UV out of sync. Color fringing and aliasing at edges

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Probably an incorrect filtering job from the DI. The 4:2:0 format is screwed up.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2

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Title: Amadeus (1984)

Studio: Warner Brothers

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: As long as we have static shots where not much moves it looks like scrubbed HD light, very mediocre. Once things move we get also an ugly veil of DNR smearing over all moving textures. Stone age DNR, that is. Not remotely close to what could be done with sophisticated grain processing methods available today. This disc is a major embarrassment to WB. Quote Robert Harris : "Somewhere between the film element and the Blu-ray this particular Amadeus has been turned to something odd and Patton-esque. Not necessarily soft, certainly clean, but with virtually no feel of film or cinema whatsoever, this Amadeus is an unwelcome surprise."

URLs: Example 1 Example 2

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Title: American Psycho (2000)

Studio: Lionsgate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE/Ringing, DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old and outdated transfer

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5

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Title: Army of Darkness (1992)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticeable EE ringing throughout film.

URLs:

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Title: "Band of Brothers" (2001)

Studio: HBO/Warner Brothers/DreamWorks

Disc: BD

Problem: Inconspicuous DNR

Time Codes: Parts of the feature, not part 5.

Comments: DNR similar to Walk the Line / Disturbia / MPEG-2 version of The Descent. The DNR was missing on the HD-DVD edition.

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Title: Baraka (1992)

Studio: MPI

Disc: BD

Problem: EE/Ringing

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Halos from sharpening are visible almost all the time. Strength varies. The sharpening together with the clean look of 65mm footage gives the transfer a high dynamic range digital camera look instead of a film look.

URL: Thick EE around blue cloth Halos around the stone objects

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Title: Basic Instinct (1992)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: There is literally no grain and significantly less detail than what is found in other HD presentations. DNR artifacts such as ghosting trails are not uncommon.

URLs: Comparison DVD/HD-DVD/BD

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Title: Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007)

Studio: Image Entertainment

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing/Moiré/Wobbling

Time Codes: At regular intervals during the whole film

Comments: Another Genesis sourced transfer that has issues with jaggies and messed up fine detail. Most shots look clean but some have massive wobbling of vertical lines or jaggies are running up and down some edges, freeze into invisibilty and come alive again. Car grills are problematic, as usual. Bad conversion to 1080p 4:2:0? Problems in the master?

URLs:

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Title: The Big Lebowski (1998)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticable EE ringing throughout film.

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

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Title: Bulletproof (1996)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: EE is visible throughout.

URLs:

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Title: Butterfly on a Wheel (2007)

Studio: Icon

Disc: BD (UK)

Problem: 24fps

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Mastered in 24fps instead of the standard 23.976fps. This causes problems with equipment that sticks strictly to 23.976 (dropped frames etc.)

URLs:

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Title: Caddyshack (1980)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments:

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6 Example 7 Example 8

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Title: Casino Royale (2006)

Studio: Sony

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Actual confirmation by a Sony insider about the grain reduction. Artifacts minimal.

URL: AVS paidgeek's post

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Title: Cat People (1982)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Another outdated Universal transfer with a dated look with thick EE.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 (nudity!) Example 5 Example 6

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Title: The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005)

Studio: Disney

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film more or less

Comments: Textures in motion are often smeared/messed up. The worst smearing happens when the children reach Aslan's camp. The big battle in the end on the other hand looks mostly very good. Transfer is on the soft side and uneven, smeared shots and clean(er) shots follow each other. There are a few halos from sharpening.

URLs:

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Title: Clear and Present Danger (1994)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Waxy and smeared faces everywhere and haloes around high contrast edges.

URLs: Cinema Squid's captures

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Title: Con Air (1997)

Studio: Disney

Disc: BD (UK/US)

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Frequently shows up throughout

Comments: There are often thick edge halos in combination with a significantly smoothed, plastic look.

URLs:

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Title: Crank (2006)

Studio: Lionsgate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: More or less throughout.

Comments: The EE is in the master and was also visible on 35mm prints.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: Dark City (1998)

Studio: New Line

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR/EE/Aliasing

Time Codes:

Comments: Haloes from EE and waxy/smeared faces are popping up at regular intervals. Transfer is uneven. Some shots have also aliasing issues.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: The Dark Knight (2008)

Studio: Warner Brothers

Disc: BD

Problem: EE/DNR

Time Codes: All 35mm parts

Comments: 35mm parts have halos from EE and an overprocessed harsh look. IMAX parts look much much better.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4

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Title: Dawn of the Dead (1978)

Studio: Anchor Bay

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: DNR: throughout. Dirt & Scratch correction problem: 00:34:39

Comments: Temporal DNR causes smearing (see URL 1). Dirt & scratch removal problem at 00:34:39 causes shimmering highlights in the water to be mistaken for white film scratches and corrupted (URL 2).

URLs: Link1 Link2

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Title: Indigènes (2006) aka Days of Glory (2006)

Studio: Metrodome

Disc: Blu-ray (UK)

Problem: Jaggies

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Probably a bad filtering job from the DI.

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Title: Days of Heaven (1978)

Studio: Criterion

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Regular halos around high contrast edges. Suggestions this is in the original photography have not been substantiated so far.

URLs: AVS thread with stills

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Title: Il Decameron (1971)

Studio: BFI

Disc: BD (UK)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: The second Pasolini BD from the British FILM Institute that does not look like FILM due to

agressive and bad quality digital filtering that corrodes the textures with blocky noise and turns everything into an ugly overprocessed film-video bastard, including halos around high contrast edges from sharpening. Same look as Salò. Obviously the same transfer facility at it again with their clueless processing.

That BFI has no policy in place to not release such substandard product is sad indeed.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: The Deer Hunter (1978)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes:

Comments: Slight EE visible against the sky in certain shots (needs to be rechecked)

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

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Title: The Departed (2006)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD (USA), HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Chapter 33

Comments: Vertical wallpaper stripes disappear unnaturally when the camera pans. DNR is thought to be on the DI and not a Blu Ray mastering issue. Overall a good looking transfer.

URLs: Link1 Link2 Link3 Link4

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Title: The Descent (2005)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Comments: The older AVC encoded version has the grain intact, the newer MPEG2 version is degrained.

URLs: AVS thread

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Title: Dirty Dancing (1987)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR, EE, Aliasing, Banding

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Apparently a transfer from hell, processed to death.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6 Example 7 Example 8

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Title: Donnie Brasco (1997)

Studio: Sony

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes:

Comments: Strong but extremely thin EE occasionally visible along high-contrast edges.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2

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Title: The Doors (1991)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Obvious EE in some scenes, and plastic faces everywhere.

URLs: Cinema Squid's captures

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Title: Elf (2003)

Studio: New Line

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Plastic waxy look throughout

URLs: Example 1 Example 2

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Title: Elizabeth (1998)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: 3:32 Bishop's outline (rather thick white halo)/06:00 Outline of bowing figure (halo)/22:15 Outline of head and window (haloes)/28:29 Outline/branches of tree and figures (haloes)

Comments: The EE is best visible on high contrast edges. Since much of the film is dark and such edges are frequently not there the effect of the EE is often more subtle than in the examples. EE as used here gives the imagery a somewhat coarse videoish look, sometimes rather obvious, sometimes in a more subtle way.

URLs:

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Title: Enter the Dragon (1973)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD and HD-DVD

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments:

URLs: Forum member Gooki's screen grabs

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Title: Erin Brockovich (2000)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Probably an old transfer with noticeable EE throughout film.

URLs:

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Title: Escape from New York (1981)

Studio: Optimum

Disc: Blu-ray (UK)

Problem: EE, SD master?

Time Codes:

Comments: Edge enhancement, aliasing, very little detail. Likely an SD upscale.

URLs: Blu-ray vs. DVD

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Title: Event Horizon (1997)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: Blu-ray

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Rather thick halos from sharpening pop up regularly. Dommage.

URLs:

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Title: Evil Dead II (1987)

Studio: Starz

Disc: Blu-ray (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: The grain is literally frozen in place in every shot. It looks like a layer of dirt is on your screen.

URLs:

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Title: Eyes Wide Shut (1999)

Studio: WB

Disc: HD-DVD (USA), BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: 10:13.. (watch left model's right arm), 18:24.. (watch man's right cheek), 23:07.. (watch Kidman's

face), 44:20.. (watch walls, jacket; one of the worst shots in the film)

Comments: Pretty much the whole film looks processed with varying degrees of artifacting. Even well lit

scenes with little grain have been tampered with, such as the final scene in the toy shop.

URLs:

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Title: Face/Off (1997)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD (UK/USA)

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes:

Comments: Outdated far from optimal transfer with heavy DNR and some sharpening as well.

URLs: HD-DVD/BD Comparison 1080p SD-HD Comparison

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Title: Fantastic Four (2005)

Studio: Fox/Constantin Film

Disc: BD (Germany)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: DNR smearing degrades image quality. HD light.

URLs:

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Title: Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticable EE ringing throughout film.

URLs:

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Title: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Really edgy old transfer

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5

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Title: Final Destination (2000)

Studio: New Line/EIV

Disc: BD (USA/UK)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Parts of the film

Comments: Some shots show messed up textures from DNR, others don't.

URLs:

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Title: First Blood (1982)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR, digital scratch removal artifacts, minor EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Virtually no film grain, wax-like presentation, and an abundance of ghosting artifacts. Scratch removal mistakenly removes actual picture details like parts of bullets and light reflections. The image is also sharpened slightly but without visible halos. StudioCanal/Optimum's releases use the same bad master but without this digital processing.

URLs: Screenshot comparison thread Direct link to stills

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Title: Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985)

Studio: Lions Gate, Optimum, Momentum/StudioCanal/Universal

Disc: BD (USA), BD (UK), HD-DVD (UK/France/Australia/Germany)

Problem: Inverse telecine (IVTC) error(?)

Time Codes: 1:23:57, 1:24:51

Comments: This appears to be an IVTC error of some sort, motion becomes jerky and frames are more or less duplicated but obviously interpolated from half-height frames (fields), replacing fields that are dropped entirely. It happens twice but only for a few seconds. The DVD doesn't have this issue.

URLs:

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Title: Flash Gordon (1980)

Studio: Universal

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Various amounts of scrubbing througout.

URLs: Examples

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Title: The Fog (1980)

Studio: Optimum

Disc: BD, HD-DVD

Problem: Upconvert

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Confimed to be an upconvert.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 .

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Title: Full Metal Jacket (1987)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD (first edition) and HD-DVD (first edition)

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments: This was fixed in Warner's 2007 BD and HD-DVD remastered versions

URLs: Forum member Gooki's screen grabs

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Title: The 40 Year Old Virgin (2005)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Extreme DNR which makes everything look smoothed over and unnatural. Very upconvertish quality with EE ringing.

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

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Title: The Fugitive (1993)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD (USA) and HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments:

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6 Example 7

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Title: Gangs of New York (2002)

Studio: Enterainment in Video (EiV) (UK)/Disney (US)

Disc: BD (UK/US/Germany)

Problem: DNR + EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: The whole movie has probably the worst DNR + EE I've seen on a disc yet.

URLs: Link1 Link2 Link 3 Attention. The film has since been remastered and the new transfer is state of the art: New DB

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Title: Gattaca (1997)

Studio: Sony

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes:

Comments: Allegedly brand new transfer but sometimes obvious EE. Disturbing.

URL: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: Gladiator (2000)

Studio: Universal

Disc: BD

Problem: EE/DNR/Scratch-dirt removal gone astray

Time Codes: Whole movie except extended parts which look fine

Comments: While the original transfer has minor EE too the Blu Ray has a lot more and sports an ugly harsh video look. Glaring halos, waxy faces, removed objects due to poor scratch removal. Completely unacceptable to release such overprocessed rubbish in 2009 when a major motion picture is involved (actually with any motion picture, but with Oscar winners!!!?!). Needs to be recalled.

Update: A new BD is coming with a proper new transfer. The difference is not subtle at all.

URLs: TV version 1 Filtered Blu Ray 1 TV version 2 Filtered Blu Ray 2 TV version 3 Filtered Blu Ray 3 TV version 4 Filtered Blu Ray 4 Comparison old and new BD

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Title: Gwoemul (2006) aka The Host (2006)

Studio: Magnolia

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE/DNR

Time Codes: EE whole movie, DNR sometimes

Comments: At first sight a very good looking transfer, but on a large screen it becomes quickly obvious that the transfer is sharpened from start to finish and at times also grain filtering has been applied, giving the images a somewhat digital and hard appearance. It looks best with the dark material and less so with daylight scenes.

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Title: Half Baked (1998)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticable EE ringing throughout film.

URLs:

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Title: The Happening (2008)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Noise filtering

Time Codes: Whole transfer

Comments: A noise filter was applied which smears moving textures a bit and adds unnatural looking

noise patterns to textures. Images look processed and not in a film like way. The deleted scenes look different but also filtered.

URLs:

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Title: Happy Feet (2006)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD (USA), HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Banding

Time Codes: Various scenes with gradients

Comments: Appears to be source related

URLs: Xylon's captures, VC-1 and POSTERIZATION thread with pics, HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

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Title: "Heroes" (2006): Season One

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA), BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes:

Comments: Certain scenes exhibit strong/thick EE halos. Most shots have a coarse video look due to the sharpening. That this is still going on in 2006/2007 is depressing. Apparently the mentality is that it's 'only made for TV' so let's sharpen the hell out of the film source.

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

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Title: "Heroes" (2006): Season Two

Studio: Universal

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes:

Comments: Various amounts of EE are in practically all shots.

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Title: High School Musical 3: Senior Year (2008)

Studio: Disney

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes:

Comments: An overall good looking transfer but some shots show messed up skin by DNR processing and some smearing with other textures. Most likely part of the original digital intermediate. By the way, HSM 1+2 have also DNR issues (smearing).

URLs:

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Title: A History of Violence (2005)

Studio: New Line/EIV

Disc: BD (USA), BD (UK)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Whole disc

Comments: Quote Robert Harris : "What we have is another failure. Colors are pretty. The film element is clean. But again, it takes on the plastic look of 'Patton'. Virtually all detail is gone." 'Nuff said. ATTENTION: The UK disc is NOT DNRed and a good alternative if you can play region B discs. It has also the EE, though, which seems to be baked into the original transfer while the DNR is not but was added for BD mastering in US. See US-UK comparison . Since the film had a DI by E-Film the question arises if the HD is from the DI. The EE and electronic look of the HD would be atypical for a DI from E-Film.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2

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Title: Hot Rod (2007)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Strange screen door pattern over the image

Time Codes: Whole disc

Comments: If you scale the picture down to smaller size it becomes magnified as vertical bars.

URL: Full res Scaled down

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Title: House of 1000 Corpses (2003)

Studio: Universal/Lionsgate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments: Grain structure frozen in place, movement causes mild background "warping", rather than smearing (as is the case with the temporal NR methods). Edge enhancement throughout, but not the worst example.

URLs: Link1 Link2


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Title: Hulk (2003)

Studio: Universal

Disc: BD (USA), HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE/sharpening

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Some EE often visible. Overall a good looking transfer, though.

URLs: http://www.imagebam.com/

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Title: Immortel (ad vitam) (2004)

Studio: First Look Pictures

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Upscaled SD, aliasing etc.

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: There is no HD transfer on the disc but simply an upsampled SD version. Aliasing all over the place. No HD detail

whatsoever. On the back for once it's no typo if they say it's NTSC.

URLs:

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Title: The Italian Job (2003)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD (USA), HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Whole Movie

Comments: Lots of DNR and EE, especially noticable against the overcast sky in the begining of the film.

URLs:

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Title: Jodhaa Akbar (2008)

Studio: Bodega

Disc: BD (France)

Problem: 24fps, DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Mastered in 24fps instead of the standard 23.976fps. This causes problems with equipment that sticks strictly to 23.976 (dropped frames etc.). There are also some DNR artifacts visible, possibly coming from the DI.

URLs:

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Title: Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)

Studio: Miramax

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Especially Chapter 2 (Church) but at some other places too

Comments: The church scene shows strong smearing and other DNR artifacts. The rest of the film is less affected or not

at all (animation). The DNR is on the DI and not a Blu Ray mastering issue. 35mm prints had the same look.

URLs:

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Title: Kung Fu Panda (2008)

Studio: Paramount/DreamWorks

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Ringing

Comments: Mild ringing throughout film, indicative of a low pass filter. Best visible at top and bottom image border.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: The Last Starfighter (1984)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD/BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments: Massive digital noise reduction greatly reduced detail, waxy look

URLs: (pics have been pulled) Link

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Title: Das Leben der Anderen (2006)/The Lives of Others (2006)

Studio: Sony

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes:

Comments: An extremely nice and film-like transfer, but edge enhancement is visible in certain shots. Most of the time it's barely noticeable though.

URLs: Example of stronger EE, Example of lighter EE, What it's like most of the time (only very faint effect visible along jawline)

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Title: Lethal Weapon (1987)

Studio: Warner Brothers

Disc: BD (USA), HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Temporal DNR causing unnatural and partially frozen grain movement, smearing, and disappearing image information in motion. Details of patterned wallpaper, clothing, etc. phase in and out of existence, especially during camera pans. Most times the movie cuts to a different camera angle, the picture is uncorrupted for a single frame and then grain-wiped for the rest of the shot (this switch isn't visible during playback).

URLs: Remnants of print artifacts frozen for an extra frame: A B C

Shot change: A B

Another shot change: A B

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Title: Lethal Weapon 2 (1989)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD (USA) and HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments:

URLs: Forum member Gooki's screen grabs Forum member Gooki's screen grabs

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Title: Liar Liar (1997)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticeable EE ringing throughout film. Horrible looking.

URLs:

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Title: Life of Brian (1979)

Studio: Sony

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: The transfer has been grain processed by Lowry/DTS.

URLs: Example1, Example2, Example3

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Title: The Longest Day (1962)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: From Robert Harris (restorer of such classics as Lawrence of Arabia): I was unable to recognize it as film. There was no look of the cinema, except for some occasional white vertical scratches that remain. To my eye, the image appears to be highly processed, removing grain, and with it, much of the high frequency information that can be so easily replicated in the wonderful Blu-Ray system.

URLs: John Wax-Wayne, born Tussaud .

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Title: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)

Studio: Warner/New Line

Disc: BD (worldwide)

Problem: EE, DNR

Time Codes:

Comments: Waxy textures and faces due to DNR in several scenes

URL: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 See also BD versus HDTV thread

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Title: Mallrats (1995)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Old transfer with EE/ringing, same problem as The Big Lebowski

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

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Title: The Matrix (1999)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Comments: Slight EE/Ringing visible in certain shots

Time Codes:

URLs: Link1 Link2

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Title: Meet the Parents (2000)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: probably an old transfer with noticeable EE throughout film. Can provide timecodes, but i think it's quite obvious.

URLs:

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Title: The Men Who Stare at Goats (2009)

Disc: BD (USA)

Studio: Starz/Anchor Bay

Problem: Aliasing/Color Fringing

Time Codes:

URLs: Example 1 Example2 Example3 Example4

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Title: Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes:

Comments: A few shots show DNR smearing. Nothing major. Overall a nice looking transfer and much better

than the 35mm prints which were full of DNR smearing.

URLs:

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Title: Monster's Ball (2001)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Throughout

Comments: Another visit at Madame Tussaud's with some halos thrown in for good measure.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 (nudity!) Example 3 Example 4

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Title: The Mummy (1999)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA), BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Opening desert shootout

Comments: EE halos during certain scenes, most visible against desert skies

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive Example Example

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Title: The Mummy Returns (2001)

Studio: Universal

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Blu Ray disc has DNR the HD-DVD does not have.

URLs: DNRed BD still1 Not DNRed HD-DVD still1 DNRed BD still2 Not DNRed HD-DVD still2

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Title: Mutiny on the Bounty (1962)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE/DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticable EE ringing throughout film and grain largely gone.

URLs:

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Title: Narc (2002)

Studio: Splendid Film

Disc: BD (Germany)

Problem: SD Upconvert

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An upconvert if I ever saw one.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6 Example 7 Example 8 Example 9

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Title: National Treasure (2004)

Studio: Disney/Buena Vista

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Comments: White haloes from EE regularly pop up, well visible for example in the early snow shots. Overall a pretty good looking transfer, though.

URLs:

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Title: Near Dark (1987)

Studio: Optimum

Disc: BD (UK)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: DNR smearing often visible on moving skin etc.

URLs: Stills

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Title: Next (2007)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: HD-DVD (USA), BD (UK/USA)

Problem: Aliasing

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Looks like a filtering bug from DI to 1080p master

URLs: Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
Example 4

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Title: The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)

Studio: Disney

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Scratch removal artifacts

Time Codes:

Comments: Some frames have genuine image information filtered away because it was mistaken for scratches/random noise.

URLs: Scratch removal artifact example

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Title: A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)

Studio: Alliance (master is most likely from NewLine)

Disc: BD (Canada)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Wax faces throughout.

URLs:

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Title: The Nutty Professor (1996)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticable EE ringing throughout film.

URLs:

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Title: The Orphanage (2007)

Studio: New Line

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing

Time Codes: Whole Movie

Comments: Jaggies along all sharp edges. Looks like a
creating the 1080p master.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: Out of Africa (1985)

Studio: Universal

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR and EE

Time Codes: Whole Movie

Comments: Outdated transfer not suitable for Blu Ray, with thick EE and waxy textures due to DNR all

around. Not film like at all.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 (see Beaver Link (Beaver blocks direct links to the stills))

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Title: Pan's Labyrinth (2006)

Studio: New Line

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR and possibly EE

Time Codes: Whole Movie

Comments: US BD has strong DNR, French HD-DVD and German/UK BD do not. The French HD-DVD has scratch/speckel removal artifacts, though. Correct image detail is mixed up with defects and (partially) removed. The examples show the difference clearly. DNR destroys the film look and turns people into wax puppets.

URLs:
Example1_UK_BD_No_DNR
Example1_US_BD_HD-DVD_WITH_DNR
Example2_UK_BD_No_DNR
Example2_US_BD_HD-DVD_WITH_DNR
Example3_UK_BD_No_DNR
Example3_US_BD_HD-DVD_WITH_DNR
Example4_UK_BD_No_DNR
Example4_US_BD_HD-DVD_WITH_DNR
UK BD versus French HD-DVD Example 1 UK BD versus French HD-DVD Example 2

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Title: Patton (1970)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR, also EE sometimes

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: A relentlessly degrained transfer with an unreal hyperclean CGI look not representative of the film original at all. Very smooth and lacking fine detail that is gone together with the grain. Revisionist film mastering for HD at its best/worst.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6 Example 7
Example 8 (EE)
Example 9 (EE)

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Title: Payback: Straight Up - The Director's Cut (2006) (V)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD (USA), HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: 25:41... (Scene where Porter meets Stegman and corrupt police officers)

Comments: Only one scene has bad DNR, the rest looks untouched or with minor tweaking

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Title: The Perfect Storm (2000)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments:

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6

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Title: "Planet Earth" (2006)

Studio: BBC/Warner

Disc: BD (USA), HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Banding

Time Codes: Certain scenes with gradients

Comments: Broadcast HD BBC version doesn't exhibit the problem

URLs: thread with captures from House

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Title: Predator 2 (1990)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD (UK)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments:

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Title: Predator (1987)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: This refers to the 2010 REMASTER ONLY! The original release is NOT DNRed!! Instead of a new encoding of the existing transfer it was processed to death. Rubbish wax museum instead of a proper remastering.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4

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Title: The Reader (2008)

Studio: Weinstein

Disc: BD

Problem: Ringing

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Good looking disc but persistent ringing at the top and bottom and on edges with enough contrast in the picture. A suboptimal ringing digital filter was used somewhere in the processing chain.

URLs: Example

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Title: Rendition (2007)

Studio: Entertainment in Video / New Line Cinema

Disc: BD (UK)

Problem: strong DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: DNR at the level of Pan's Labyrinth (US)

URLs:

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Title: Reservoir Dogs (1992)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes:

Comments: The effect may not be as devastating as some other examples, but there is a distinct lack of grain (and sharpness).

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: Roving Mars (2006)

Studio: Disney

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments: Massive digital noise reduction greatly reduced details. Waxy look. And this from super resolution IMAX.

Absurd!

URLs: Example 1 Example 2

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Title: Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma (1975)

Studio: BFI

Disc: BD (UK)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Strong EE plus a spotty grain structure due to DNR makes for a very harsh and processed look. The appearance is also pasty/doughy and the strength of halos is among the worst seen so far on Blu Ray. In addition scratch removal attacks genuine image detail several times making it flicker. A very unfilmlike transfer that falls apart miserably on medium and long shots while some close ups look ok. That this is a new transfer released by the BFI is quite disturbing. Should have been rejected by BFI as unfit for release in current form.

URLs: DVDBeaver captures, Blu-ray.com captures (register for 1080p) Details and 2 expert comments here

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Title: Saw 3 (2006)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR/Banding

Time Codes: Whole movie/0:01:01 and 1:37:15

Comments: Temporal DNR causing detail loss, clumpy and unnaturally-moving grain, and a lot of motion trailing in darker scenes even across shot changes.

URLs: Shot change with details from previous frame still visible: A- B Another shot change: A- B

Banding: 1 2

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Title: Scary Movie (2000)

Studio: Disney

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Everything looks smooth and wax-like. Small facial details are nonexistent, and other details such as clothing patterns are either completely filtered-out or continually pop in and out of the picture. Plenty of EE too. A transfer from hell. The opposite of high definition.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6 Example 7 Example 8 Example 9 Example 10

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Title: Seed of Chucky (2004)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticeable EE ringing throughout film.

URLs: Example

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Title: Short Circuit (1986)

Studio: Image Entertainment

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time codes: Entire movie

Comments: The worst case of DNR I've ever seen. Indoor scenes are acceptable at times. Outdoor shots are completely wiped clean leaving waxy faces and no fine detail on anything. This is consistent through out the entire movie.

URLs:

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Title: Signs (2002)

Studio: Buena Vista

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Banding/EE

Time codes: Banding: Opening and closing credits/EE: Most of the film, strong here: 8:37...

Comments: Daylight shots show more or less EE. Not much but easily visible when projected large.

URLs:

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Title: The Simpsons Movie (2007)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Ringing

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Ringing around high contrast edges, reason unknown. Requires 1080p resolution and full high frequency rendition to see it.

URLs: Link1 Link2

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Title: Sivaji (2007)

Studio: Ayngaran

Disc: BD

Problem: 24fps, DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Mastered in 24fps instead of the standard 23.976fps. This causes problems with equipment that sticks strictly to 23.976 (dropped frames etc.). There is also smearing from DNR processing of the DI (not a Blu Ray mastering issue). BD is very accurate to its source, the 4K DI files converted to 1080p.

URLs:

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Title: The 6th Day (2000)

Studio: Sony

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Persistent EE visible most of the time, giving the transfer a video look.

URLs:

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Title: The Sixth Sense (1999)

Studio: Disney

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Some EE present and the transfer is DNRed with the usual side effects (waxy faces). The German Blu Ray has NO DNR, only the EE and is region free (supplements in PAL, though).

URLs: US versus German examples: US1 German1 US2 German2 US3 German3 US4 German4

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Title: Spartacus (1960)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)/BD (worldwide)

Problem: Noise (not grain), EE/DNR, EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: HD-DVD: One of the worst examples of taking an ancient transfer and slapping it on a disc. Tons of dithery noise plus ringing/EE. BD: Same transfer processed to remove noise and grain, and with it all fine detail. Bordering the waxy look. New transfer needed, not doctoring an old very outdated one.

URLs: HD-DVD: Xylon's comparison thread Robert Harris on the BD

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Title: Spider-Man (2002)

Studio: Sony

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Whole movie more or less

Comments: Very uneven looking transfer going from poor to very good looking shots. There is not much EE

but DNR artifacts pop up regularly.

URLs:

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Title: Stargate (1994)

Studio: Lionsgate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie more or less

Comments: Uneven looking transfer with sometimes thick EE, sometimes lesser EE.

URLs:

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Title: Star Trek Films (Star Trek 1-6)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes:

Comments: The films are DNRed although the extent varies a lot, from relatively little (1,2) to very overprocessed wax jobs lacking any resemblance to film (3-6). 6 is from an interlaced 1080i transfer. Star Trek 2 looks very good.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 (no joke!)

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Title: Street Kings (2008)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes:

Comments: Minor DNR smearing visible at times. Probably part of the DI. Rather subtle. Overall this is a

good looking transfer.

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Title: The Sum of All Fears (2002)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes:

Comments:

URLs:

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Title: Superman (1978)

Studio: Warner Brothers

Disc: HD-DVD, BD

Problem: DNR

Time Codes:

Comments: Most shots show smearing from DNR processing. Together with the diffusion filter photography that

results in a very soft picture most of the time.

URLs:

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Title: Suspiria (1977)

Studio: CDE

Disc: BD (Italy)

Problem: DNR and more

Time Codes:

Comments: see here

URLs: see here

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Title: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Comments: Only refers to the 2009 Skynet edition which has been filtered compared to earlier releases of the same transfer. The result are oversmoothed textures and wax like skin at times.

Time Codes:

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: There Will Be Blood (2007)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: The whole film

Comments: Daylight scenes show all haloes around high contrast edges. The picture looks harsh and videolike and nonetheless somewhat fuzzy.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: The Thing (1982)

Studio: Universal

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Whole film

Comments: Unlike the HD-DVD the BD is grain filtered.

URLs: HD-DVD 1 BD 1 HD-DVD 2 BD 2 HD-DVD&BD AVS thread

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Title: La tigre e la neve (2005)

Studio:

Disc: HD-DVD (Italy)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Most of the time

Comments: EE can be quite thick and obvious.

URLs:

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Title: Top Gun (1986)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: HD-DVD (USA), BD (USA)

Problem: EE/DNR

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticeable EE ringing throughout film. Also, grain filtering artifacts due to moving parts keeping the grain and non moving parts losing it giving an uneven grain level within frames. Plus the standard waxy look of filtered human skin.

URLs: Example 1: Check grainy moving glass Example 2: Check moving Cruise versus sky and artifacts in border region Example 3: Check Cruise and border versus rest

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Title: Total Recall (1990)

Studio: Lionsgate & Studio Canal / Universal

Disc: BD (USA) & HD DVD (France / Australia)

Problem: Digital scratch removal artifacts

Time Codes: Whole Movie

Comments: Scratch removal that removes picture details deemed to be "scratches" such as bullet shells. The intact scratches and details can be seen on the DVD releases. The HD DVD seems to have more objects removed than the BD.

URLs: Example 1: DVD vs BD Example 2: DVD vs BD Example 3: DVD vs HD-DVD

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Title: Traffic (2000)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Mastered from SD master, EE

Time Codes: The entire HD-DVD doesn't look like the film ought to look in 1080p.

Comments: The French HD-DVD looks much better than the USA release. In the French version, text has much better clarity, details are much more pronounced, and the film grain is appropriately resolved. Even a 720p broadcast looks much better.

URLs: Forum member Xylon's direct screen grab comparisons of the HD DVD, SD DVD, and 720p broadcast can be seen here and here and here and here and here

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Title: The Transporter (2002)

Studio: Asmik Ace/EuropaCorp/Sony

Disc: BD (Japan)

Problem: DNR smearing

Time Codes: Most parts of the movie

Comments: Encoded from an old transfer

URLs:

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Title: Tremors (1990)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD/BD

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Extremely DNRed imagery with EE/ringing. Just atrocious. Atrocious at some spots and only a minor problem during others, but it is all over the place.

URLs: HD-DVD Example BD stills

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Title: The Truman Show (1998)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR/EE/Horizontally Stretched Image

Time Codes:

Comments: Outdated transfer with no 1080p detail to speak of. Overfiltered and distorted with a horizontal stretch. Needs to be remastered.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Thread with examples for incorrectly stretched picture

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Title: Twister (1996)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)/BD (USA)

Problem: DNR

Time Codes: Visible most of the time

Comments: A very smooth, clean and somehwat soft transfer, easy on the eyes. Grain has been largely removed and with it high frequency detail. Textures in motion tend to show some smearing. Faces look often oversmoothed, like too much make up powder was applied.

URLs:

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Title: 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA) /BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: EE is visible throughout, but at it's worst for the first hour or so. Some of it (all?) is also claimed to be lens related and front projection related and not EE. Fact is many edges on this transfer look unclean.

URLs: Link1 Link2

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Title: Unbreakable (2000)

Studio: Buena Vista

Disc: BD

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Many shots, best visible on high contrast shots with sharp edges

Comments: The vista is not so buena on this transfer that sports mostly a harsh oversharpened video look lacking detail and a film like appearance. Grain looks bad as well, especially in motion.

URLs: SD vs HD

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Title: U-571 (2000)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD

Problem: EE/Ringing

Time Codes:

Comments:

URLs:

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Title: Waiting... (2005)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: DNR (noise reduction)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments: Even sitting at a reasonable distance, severe DNR is detectable. It looks very similar to The 40-Year-Old Virgin . The transfer looks very smooth throughout with people sporting waxy Barbie doll complexions.

URLs:

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Title: Walk the Line (2005)

Studio: Fox

Disc: BD (NL/FR)

Problem: DNR/EE

Time Codes: Parts of the movie

Comments: Low to Moderate DNR / Mild EE (DNR is on par with Sixth Sense)

URLs:

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Title: Waterworld (1995)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments: Also noisy and blurry, with no good shadow detail. One of the worst HD transfers released so far. Very outdated look.

URLs:

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Title: The Wild Bunch (1969)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA), BD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments:

URLs:

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Title: Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971)

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Visible all the time

Comments: Despite no word on this for this particular title from the professional reviews, I was able to easily spot these artifacts on my 1080p display during my first viewing from my normal seating position.

URLs: Link

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Title: The X Files (1998)

Studio: Twentieth Century Fox

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Macroblocking, Color Banding and especially EE

Time Codes: Macroblocking during the opening caveman scenes... Color Banding during the opening title sequence... The edge enhancement runs from the beginning of the film right to the end thus is throughout the film.

Comments: The edge enhancement is thin but very noticeable on large projection screens and it spoiled my enjoyment. The color banding is only on the title sequence and i only noticed bad macroblocking during the very opening scenes.

URLs:

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Title: Young Guns (1988)

Studio: Lions Gate

Disc: BD (USA)

Problem: Aliasing (Jaggies)

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Visible all the time. Jaggies due to bad filtering. No 1080p detail.

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

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Title: Zulu (1964)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD

Problem: DNR

Comments:

URLs: Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5
 

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I think this is a good idea. For those discriminating viewers this will come in handy and lets hope over time the day will come there will be no need for this thread.

Sadly I have my share to submit to this list.


Thanks mhafner!
 

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This might the greasest sticky of all time. I would be more interested in this than the PQ/AQ thread. Thanks, and add Top Gun to the list please.
 

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Originally Posted by lyris /forum/post/12195941


The Fifth Element (remaster)

Disc:
BD, USA
Problem: incorrect Inverse Telecine (IVTC), EE
Time Codes: IVTC: 00:29:55 - look at the backs of the police uniforms. EE: throughout.
Comments: Incorrect inverse telecine of 1080i source material causes Combing, will get picture soon.
URLs: Soon

Interesting.
 

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I posted some new titles and changed the rules. You can now also report aliasing and incorrect inverse telecine issues. You need a 1080p 1:1 pixel mapped display and a progressive HD player for reporting these.
 

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Title: Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

Studio: Warner

Disc: HD DVD

Problem: The appearance of aliasing artifacts (jaggies) from vertical domain filtering.

Time Codes: Noticeable throughout the movie; can be spotted easily during the first few minutes.

Comments: Despite no word on this for this particular title from the professional reviews, I was able to easily spot these artifacts on my 1080p display during my first viewing from my normal seating position. A more recent thread (linked below) started by another member verifies this.

URLs: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...wonka+aliasing


Title: Enter the Dragon

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD and HD DVD

Problem: The appearance of aliasing artifacts (jaggies) from vertical domain filtering.

Time Codes: Noticeable throughout the movie.

Comments: N/A

URLs: Forum member Gooki's screen grabs.


Title: Full Metal Jacket (Warner's first issue)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD and HD DVD

Problem: The appearance of aliasing artifacts (jaggies) from vertical domain filtering.

Time Codes: Noticeable throughout the movie.

Comments: This was fixed in Warner's recent BD and HD DVD release.

URLs: Forum member Gooki's screen grabs.


Title: Lethal Weapon 2

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD and HD DVD

Problem: The appearance of aliasing artifacts (jaggies) from vertical domain filtering.

Time Codes: Noticeable throughout the movie.

Comments: N/A

URLs: Forum member Gooki's screen grabs.


Title: Traffic

Studio: Universal, USA

Disc: HD DVD

Problem: It appears to be sourced from an upconverted master. Lots of edge enhancement (EE) was applied.

Time Codes: The entire HD DVD doesn't look like the film ought to look in 1080p.

Comments: The French HD DVD looks much better than the USA release. In the French version, text has much better clarity, details are much more pronounced, and the film grain is appropriately resolved. Even a 720p broadcast looks much better.

URLs: Forum member Xylon's direct screen grab comparisons of the HD DVD, SD DVD, and 720p broadcast can be seen here , here , here , here , and here .
 

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GONY? Say it ain't so. Those pics are heartbreaking.


I'm really curious about the problems with the Fifth Element remaster. Bad flags?


How about:

The Italian Job (2003)

Studio: Paramount

Disc: BD and HD-DVD, USA

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Whole Movie

Comments: Lots of DNR and EE, especially noticable against the overcast sky in the begining of the film.

URLs: Pending

Spartacus (1960)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD, USA

Problem: Noise (not grain), EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: One of the worst examples of taking an ancient transfer and slapping it on a disc. Tons of dithery noise plus ringing EE.

URL: Xylon's comparison thread

The 40 Year Old Virgin (2005)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD, USA

Problem: DNR, EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Extreme DNR which makes everything look smoothed over and unnatural. Very upconvertish quality with EE ringing.

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

The Big Lebowski (1998)

Studio: Universal

Dsic: HD-DVD, USA

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: An old transfer with noticable EE ringing throughout film.

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive
 

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Added latest examples and proper hyperlinking. Banding now also allowed as reason for listing (BUT ONLY BANDING ON THE SOURCE, NOT FROM THE DISPLAY CHAIN!).
 

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Confirmed banding:

Happy Feet (2006)

Studio: Warner

Disc: BD, HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Banding

Time Codes: Various scenes with gradiants

Comments: Appears to be source related

URL: Xylon's captures , , VC-1 and POSTERIZATION thread with pics , International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

"Planet Earth" (2006)

Studio: BBC Warner

Disc: BD, HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: Banding

Time Codes: Certain scenes with gradients

Comments: Broadcast HD BBC version doesn't exhibit the problem

URL: thread with captures from House


Unconfirmed (needs captures):


Ant Bully

Ice Age 2

Open Season

Sky Captain

The Wild


EE:

The Deer Hunter (1978)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes:

Comments: Slight EE visible against the sky in certain shots

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

Mallrats (1995)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Whole movie

Comments: Old transfer with EE/ringing, same problem as The Big Lebowski

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

The Mummy (1999)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: Opening desert shootout

Comments: Slight EE halos during certain scenes, most visible against desert skies

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive

"Heroes" - Season 1 (2006)

Studio: Universal

Disc: HD-DVD (USA)

Problem: EE

Time Codes: [Need a list of affected episodes]

Comments: Certain scenes exhibit strong EE halos

URL: International HD-DVD Screenshot Archive
 

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I'm really curious about the problems with the Fifth Element remaster. Bad flags?

No, BD doesn't work like that - it looks like they've taken a 1080i tape (designed for HDTV broadcast?) and not managed to convert it to 24p properly.


BTW Mhfaner, some of the picture links I posted (House of 1000 Corpses etc) don't work when you copied and pasted them because of the truncated URLs.


Oh also.... House of 1000 Corpses is from Lionsgate, not Universal
 

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Interesting, that's one of the few times where I didn't find it objectionable.
 

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There is always DNR, the problem is the amount. We need to report only the movies with too much DNR.
 

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There is always DNR, the problem is the amount. We need to report only the movies with too much DNR.

Bingo. CR doesn't belong on this list.
 

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There is always DNR, the problem is the amount. We need to report only the movies with too much DNR.

There is not always DNR. That is incorrect. Unless you mean any compression is DNR since it's not lossless. That is not how we define DNR. And yes, please stick to films with DNR that show DNR artifacts.
 

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Bingo. CR doesn't belong on this list.

I added it because we have explicit confirmation for DNR so it can serve as a reference for slight and careful DNR.
 
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