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I have been playing around with MPC to play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray & I think I have finally got it sorted.

The filter list took some playing around with to get all the different combinations working.

You will need some way to decrypt your files first (I used AnyDVD HD, and you can play files straight off the original HD/Blu disk)

There appear to be 5 variations on the files

HD-DVD .evo files DTS, DD+

Blu-Ray .m2ts files, mpeg2, VC1, mpeg4 AVC

Codecs required

(I'm not telling you how to register filters on your PC)

Windows Media Player v11

cl264dec.ax (Video)(cyberlink H264/AVC Decoder from PowerDVD)*

splitter.ax (Haali media splitter (AR) from Haali Matroska splitter) (this version http://www.anymp4.com/download.php )

cinemaster audio.dll (Audio)(Sonic Cinemaster Audio Decoder v 4.3 from Cineplayer Codec Pack) **

ffdshow.ax (Audio)(ffdshow audio decoder from FFDshow)

Media Player Classic settings

select view/options/External filters/

Add filter ....... Haali Media Splitter (AR), set merit 00900000, set prefer

Add Filter ........ ffdshow audio decoder, set merit 00700000

Add filter ....... cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder, set merit 00900400

Add Filter ........ Sonic Cinemaster Audio Decoder 4.3.0, set merit 00805000

Add Filter ........ ffdshow video decoder, set merit 00800000 (late fix to stop ffdshow taking over from cyberlink)

Add Filter ....... Sonic Cinemaster Video Decoder, set merit 00700000 (late fix to stop Cinemaster Video taking over from ffdshow video)

** Add Filter ........ Cyberlink Video/SP Decoder (pdvd7), set merit "prefer" (try this for some hardware acceleration in XP)

** Add Filter ........ Nvidia Video Decoder, set merit "prefer" (block cyberlink) (try this for h/w accel in XP or Vista if you have Nvidia Purevideo)



select view/options/Internal filters

deselect anything mpeg , matroska from the source list

deselect anything AC3, mpeg from the transport filter list


select view/options/output

Select the options you like the look of (I used VMR9 renderless)


Here are some screen shots showing each combination of filters in action, just drag and drop the big files into MPC.


HD-DVD .evo (MPEG-4 AVC) Transformers

Same as the Blu-Ray filters BUT only Haali v 1.7.189.11 will play these


HD-DVD .evo (most common VC1 with DD+) 2 Fast 2 Furious **



HD-DVD .evo (VC1 with DTS-HD) Rambo First Blood



Blu-Ray .m2ts (most common MPEG-2) Planet of the Apes



Blu-Ray .m2ts (VC1) Starship Troopers



Blu-Ray .m2ts (MPEG-4 AVC) Pirates of the Caribbean *




"Print Screen" will give a desktop screen grab then paste into "Paint" to save at your set screen resolution.

"File / Save Image" in MPC will give a full 1080 grab


If any of your files don't work, take a look to see what filter you have different to mine. Ordering filters is dead easy really, you have to put them on the External list before you can move them up or down in priority.


Tested on Vista 32 and Windows XP and works perfectly but takes plenty of processor power.

This solves all the Nvidia/PowerDVD green screen problems too.


PS

I am assuming you have Windows Media Player installed (v11), HD-DVDs won't play without this installed.

Advantages of using MPC

You don't have to waste time with menus, trailers and adverts

Full resolution screen captures of the movie

You can zoom the movie to get rid of the black bars (numpad key 9)

You don't need an approved graphics card, almost any PCI-e card will work (Nvidia 7300 at 80% CPU)

Disadvantages of using MPC

Minimum processor Core2 Duo (any one will do clocked to 266FSB)

No Dolby TrueHD tracks available using Haali splitter

Not very good with AGP graphics cards

Alternative using Arcsoft filters

Install the free version of Arcsoft Totalmedia Extreme

Add filter ......... Arcsoft MPEG Demux ..... set to PREFER

Add filter ......... Arcsoft Video Decoder ........ set to PREFER

Add filter ........ Arcsoft Audio Decoder HD ..... set to PREFER

BLOCK any other splitter/demuxers you already have in your external filter list


Your playing filter list should look like this
 

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Why would you want to play any of the other rubbish?

This just plays the movie, and you can select the sound track.
 

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Coming over from the other thread... I have a feeling it must be the fact I don't have the Sonic filter for the audio. But if I don't really care about the audio there must be away to make things work smoothly. To be clear here the annecdotal evidence that leads me to think it's the audio filter. 1. audio is often the source of the sync in a filter graph 2. In EVO files that don't have an audio track (ie: the screensaver from Universal releases) things play just fine.
 

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Yes it's the lack of "cinemaster audio decoder" that is stalling your playback.

I have not found any other codec that will play DD+

You should be able to play "Rambo First Blood", "Rambo II" or "Brotherhood of the wolf" as these have DTS-HD tracks and no DD+


You can play the .evo file in graphedit without any audio decoders, stalling on wrong filter is just a "feature" of most players (including Graphedit).
 

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This just plays the movies & you can select the audio track

(no PC player will show Studio Canal subs ......... so far)


PS

The English subtitles for "Brotherhood of the wolf" are stored as .PNG files held within the "suben.aca" file package in the ADV_OBJ folder
 

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I don't think anything can do True HD at the moment, but these movies always have a DD+ track as well.

(I tried V for Vendetta, and you can't even see the True HD track exists, English DD+, French DD+, 2 channel commentry)


The Cineplayer codec does not appear to be on sale to the general public.
 

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Sarah, first of all thank you very much because it works !



I have two questions more for you :


- How can i select my French sound track ?

It's only in English for the moment...


- I would like to use some filters to improve image quality like sharpen and denoise filters. Do you know how to use ffdshow video decoder with MPC in this configuration ?


Thanks again for your great work



Ps : Sorry for my English but I'm French
 

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to change sound track, right click on the "Matroska" tray icon and guess!




Or, right click in play window, filters, Haali media splitter, audio track

 

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Oh yes i know that but i have the same tracks as you : only English ones !

And i want to access to French ones...



Any idea for my second question about filters ?
 

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Only the first one is correct. The other ones are not really listenable because they stopped each 2 or 3 seconds...

Do you have the same problem ?


Another strange thing : Without adding ffdshow audio and video filters it works all the same...
 

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Sarah99,

Would you know if Sonic 4.2 works as well?
 

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Originally Posted by treza /forum/post/11348607


Only the first one is correct. The other ones are not really listenable because they stopped each 2 or 3 seconds...

Do you have the same problem ?


Another strange thing : Without adding ffdshow audio and video filters it works all the same...

HD-DVD needs Cinemaster Audio at a higher merit than FFDshow audio else DD+ doesn't work. If you don't have FFDShow audio on the list how can you give Cineplayer a higher merit?


If you have installed all the filters and something is still not working, post a screen shot of the working filters (as I have done in my 1st post) with the movie and a description of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Davinleeds /forum/post/11349277


Sarah99,

Would you know if Sonic 4.2 works as well?

Cinemaster Audio Decoder v4.2 from Sonic Scenarist works equally well.

(I'm not entirely sure this is true)
 

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Ah...OK !


Now i put back everything as your screen shot and only the first sound track works correctly. On the other ones it's as if sound and picture are desynchronized and i only hear noises.


I do not still manage insert the filter "ffdshow video decoder" into the process to be able to use these "sharpen" and "denoise" filters. Any idea if it's possible ?
 

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So after all this driver installation to get MC to play HD, do you still have to deal with downsample HD Audio to 48 kHz?
 

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I don't think there is a way for MPC to play a TrueHD audio track at the moment.

But at least none of the sound ever goes near a Cyberlink filter.
 
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