HD-DVD cracked and available for Download?
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Yes, I have been following this story since the beginning and it looks like HD-DVD has been completely compromised and movies are available to be downloaded FREE.
This is great news for Blu-ray, because so far this only applies to HD-DVDs, and Blu-ray can implement BD+ and ROm marking.
I am really happy to support the format that is protecting studios better, because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have such cool movies to watch and talk about.
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This is great news for Blu-ray, because so far this only applies to HD-DVDs, and Blu-ray can implement BD+ and ROm marking.
I am really happy to support the format that is protecting studios better, because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have such cool movies to watch and talk about.
You do realize that those type of comments make BD an even bigger target. Seeing that ANYTHING can be hacked, I guarantee you'll be eating your warm and fuzzy words in the near future.
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Originally Posted by krinkle /forum/post/0
Yes, I have been following this story since the beginning and it looks like HD-DVD has been completely compromised and movies are available to be downloaded FREE.
This is great news for Blu-ray, because so far this only applies to HD-DVDs, and Blu-ray can implement BD+ and ROm marking.
I am really happy to support the format that is protecting studios better, because if it wasn't for them we wouldn't have such cool movies to watch and talk about.![]()
You do realize that those type of comments make BD an even bigger target. Seeing that ANYTHING can be hacked, I guarantee you'll be eating your warm and fuzzy words in the near future.
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This looks like it will be interesting, and it has been confirmed to work!
(My friend tried decrypting the menu file and it plays on my pc, but lags a lot)
(My friend tried decrypting the menu file and it plays on my pc, but lags a lot)
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Whats the download time ?? A week or two ....
Couldn't this inturn boost HD DVD player sales? People can see that the HD DVD has been hacked, so they are going to invest in this format?
These people who download HD DVD movies are most likely people who wouldn't be buying the media in the first place! DVD hackers are not buying DVDs, and they won't be buying HD DVDs either.
I don't think there are too many early adopters of the HD format who are big into piracy. If that was the case, then they would have waited download to be more readily available.
I personally don't think that its going to have a dramatic effect or cause the format to fail.
These people who download HD DVD movies are most likely people who wouldn't be buying the media in the first place! DVD hackers are not buying DVDs, and they won't be buying HD DVDs either.
I don't think there are too many early adopters of the HD format who are big into piracy. If that was the case, then they would have waited download to be more readily available.
I personally don't think that its going to have a dramatic effect or cause the format to fail.
Well I could only say you have not been following the story close enough. There is basically no hack and nothing has been compromised. Windvd just put the title key in clear memory. That's all. Next windvd's device key and title key would be revoked. Also, I expect to see bluray download very soon because windvd has the bluray version first. The only reason hd dvd is ripped first is that bluray burner is too expensive for this guy.
Future release for both are still safe and current release for both are compromised. It is an understood risk by AACS. If AACS is really serious, they shouldn't give out key until Vista PVP is used. BTW, nobody has get the key from Powerdvd yet? It is only on XP, right?
Well I could only say you have not been following the story close enough. There is basically no hack and nothing has been compromised. Windvd just put the title key in clear memory. That's all. Next windvd's device key and title key would be revoked. Also, I expect to see bluray download very soon because windvd has the bluray version first. The only reason hd dvd is ripped first is that bluray burner is too expensive for this guy.
Future release for both are still safe and current release for both are compromised. It is an understood risk by AACS. If AACS is really serious, they shouldn't give out key until Vista PVP is used. BTW, nobody has get the key from Powerdvd yet? It is only on XP, right?
Movie Studios would have you believe it's stealing the food right out of their mouth but they are assuming that if you didn't steal it, you would have bought it. It does seem though that in the past, people embrace things that are more vulnerable rather than locked down tight. Consumers don't like being told what they can or cannot do with what they buy. BD fanboys see this as the demise of HD-DVD while I see it as something that will help build sales.
Movie Studios would have you believe it's stealing the food right out of their mouth but they are assuming that if you didn't steal it, you would have bought it. It does seem though that in the past, people embrace things that are more vulnerable rather than locked down tight. Consumers don't like being told what they can or cannot do with what they buy. BD fanboys see this as the demise of HD-DVD while I see it as something that will help build sales.
Here is a direct quote from one of the guys:
looks more like HD-DVD is really in hot water to me.
and why no front page AVS headline??? Isn't this event newsworthy? Seems like studios especially would think this is a big deal.
My prediction: Universal will go neutral now sooner than anyone thought.
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Here is a direct quote from one of the guys:
looks more like HD-DVD is really in hot water to me.
and why no front page AVS headline??? Isn't this event newsworthy? Seems like studios especially would think this is a big deal.
My prediction: Universal will go neutral now sooner than anyone thought.
If you believe him, just ask him why nobody has got the key from Powerdvd for the whole two weeks? Remember Powerdvd is only on XP.
It is no suprise, because windvd just put it in clear. You just pick up, no hack/crack required.
BTW, these guy have no clue what they are talking about. Released content from both party is compromised. Future release from both is still safe.
If you believe him, just ask him why nobody has got the key from Powerdvd for the whole two weeks? Remember Powerdvd is only on XP.
It is no suprise, because windvd just put it in clear. You just pick up, no hack/crack required.
BTW, these guy have no clue what they are talking about. Released content from both party is compromised. Future release from both is still safe.
Hmm, let me see. Windvd HD DVD version didn't bother protect the title key. Windvd Bluray version was released before the HD version. For something magic, they protected bluray title key... Is that what you are saying?
Give me a break here, just because someone couldn't afford the >$500 bluray burner doesn't make the rip process any different.
Hmm, let me see. Windvd HD DVD version didn't bother protect the title key. Windvd Bluray version was released before the HD version. For something magic, they protected bluray title key... Is that what you are saying?
Give me a break here, just because someone couldn't afford the >$500 bluray burner doesn't make the rip process any different.
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I found a a blog that has a screencap of the file description but he does not reveal the actual torrent tracker.
sorry but no one has at this point proven this or provided anything other than speculation about blu-ray's vulnerability.
it is possible that this is not an issue with the blu-ray player, no one knows this for a fact one way or another at this point.
even if it is true, the blu-ray spec provides two additional copy protection features to studios: the ROM watermark, and BD+. Niether of which are offerred by HD-DVD. This was a huge part of the reason that Sony, Fox, and Disney chose Blu-ray to begin with.
sorry but no one has at this point proven this or provided anything other than speculation about blu-ray's vulnerability.
it is possible that this is not an issue with the blu-ray player, no one knows this for a fact one way or another at this point.
even if it is true, the blu-ray spec provides two additional copy protection features to studios: the ROM watermark, and BD+. Niether of which are offerred by HD-DVD. This was a huge part of the reason that Sony, Fox, and Disney chose Blu-ray to begin with.
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krinkle, listen to lymzy. What happened is basically the same as finding somebody's password written down and then using it to break into their system or computer account.
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People have been able to rip the EVO files since the backup tool was annnounced. Has anyone verified this is actually a file that is unencrypted?
Krinkle-
There was a question about this at CES in the Next Generation format debate. Studios from Blu-ray said this would affect both formats in a negative way. I'm sure you'll ask me for a link - it's in the insider thread somewhere.
I'm sure WinDVD is compromised for Blu-ray as well. Keys will be revoked, titles may be delayed if they need to repress the discs with the revoke key on them. They could also re-release the title with new volume keys that won't play on the old players.
People have been able to rip the EVO files since the backup tool was annnounced. Has anyone verified this is actually a file that is unencrypted?
Krinkle-
There was a question about this at CES in the Next Generation format debate. Studios from Blu-ray said this would affect both formats in a negative way. I'm sure you'll ask me for a link - it's in the insider thread somewhere.
I'm sure WinDVD is compromised for Blu-ray as well. Keys will be revoked, titles may be delayed if they need to repress the discs with the revoke key on them. They could also re-release the title with new volume keys that won't play on the old players.
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