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HD DVD gets 1080p 24fps output thread.

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According to this French site , the May firmware update should include the 24p feature.

If true, the US equivalent XA2 should get it at the same time.

Too bad my Ruby wont't benefit from it...
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Great just in time for the new 57 inch 1080p/120hz LCD I will be buying about that time http://www.**************.com/product/28461.html
Wish I spoke French. Any other updates listed there that you know of?
If this is true I'll be picking up a new XA2 at the end of the month.
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All the owners of reader HD-DVD l´attendaient, it arrives finally, the update allowing platinums of living room to leave a signal in 24p. For recall, the films in HD-DVD as well qu´en Blu-Ray are encodés of 24 images per seconds (24p) but leave the readers into 60 Hz for a d´affichage question of the no-claims bonus (which them are in 60 Hz). The fact d´afficher of the 24 images per seconds in 60 Hz causes what l´on calls an effect of judder which makes the fluidity much worse than of the Stake or the original 24p. The update should be available towards the end of this month, for the happiness of all the compatible owners of diffusers 24p which will profit then d´un perfect marriage.

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All the owners of reader HD-DVD awaited it, it arrives finally, the update allowing platinums of living room to leave a signal in 24p. For recall, the films in HD-DVD as well as in Blu-Ray are encodés of 24 images per seconds (24p) but leave the readers into 60 Hz for a question of posting of the no-claims bonus (which them are in 60 Hz). The fact of posting of the 24 images per seconds in 60 Hz causes what one calls an effect of judder which makes the fluidity much worse than of the Stake or the original 24p. The update should be available towards the end of this month, for the happiness of all the compatible owners of diffusers 24p which will benefit then from a perfect marriage.
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What is more of interest to me is if the XA2 can be updated to XE1 firmware. I want to play R4 PAL disks on my XA2.


Has anyone tried this??

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Originally Posted by Graham Johnson /forum/post/0


What is more of interest to me is if the XA2 can be updated to XE1 firmware. I want to play R4 PAL disks on my XA2.


Has anyone tried this??


don't go there, a guy tried this with a samsung bd player and it was nonfunctional after this... i know different product, still i would not risk it.


tosh will release all f/w updates at roughly the same time.

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Originally Posted by Graham Johnson /forum/post/0


What is more of interest to me is if the XA2 can be updated to XE1 firmware. I want to play R4 PAL disks on my XA2.


Has anyone tried this??

I would not do it either, PAL decoding has likely hardware implications and from that point of view I am not sure that an XA2 and a XE1 are 100.00% identical, especially if you have one of the early XA2.

What you could do is replace your XA2 with a XE1, but you would have to wait for a region-free version of the firmware to play SD DVDs from the US (Region 1) on it, as well as any region 4 ones (HD-DVD is a non issue, for lack of region coding).

And we are still waiting for that firmware, although it is supposed "to come soon"...
So what we need is a service manual on both machines so I can validate their being the same or not.
The author of this thread intends for it to be used to disclose, explain and discuss all of the details of how the native 1080p 24fps is passed through the 1080p HD DVD players to 24 Hz displays and how the signal is used and other aspects and attributes of the signal's replication to the final display. For example the use of 5:5 pull down, other frame rate conversion techniques and further if the signal employs frame insertion technology and more...


So the floor is open to ask questions about how A20's and XA2's successfully interpret the native disc video quality and exacting spec's and their importance.


BTW, here's a French article about Toshiba's 24 Hz firmware upgrade


-Robert
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 http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools


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How does that site confirm 24p output?

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Originally Posted by WiFi-Spy /forum/post/0

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools


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How does that site confirm 24p output?

Article says that the update should be available at the end of the month for 1080p players.
This is both terrible and stupid news, who would ever care about this stupid feature....Just Kidding :)
Quick question, I know its out of place. But does the XBR3 support 24hz output via HDMI? I cant seem to find this anywhere.
I hope this means both the HD-XE1 and HD-EP10 aswell.

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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer /forum/post/0


The author of this thread intends for it to be used to disclose, explain and discuss all of the details of how the native 1080p 24fps is passed through the 1080p HD DVD players to 24 Hz displays and how the signal is used and other aspects and attributes of the signal's replication to the final display. For example the use of 5:5 pull down, other frame rate conversion techniques and further if the signal employs frame insertion technology and more...


So the floor is open to ask questions about how A20's and XA2's successfully interpret the native disc video quality and exacting spec's and their importance.


BTW, here's a French article about Toshiba's 24 Hz firmware upgrade


-Robert

OK, I'll bite: How do the compatible machines deal with passing the native 24P off the disc? Is it pulled up to 60i then back down to 24p? Also, how do secondary streams with different frame rates (say 60i) behave? Finally, is the A2 left out of this upgrade?


Thanks!
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