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HD RTV with Dual Tuner on the Way...

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punahou80

Discussion Starter · Feb 18, 2005

I called DNNA support today (first time ever). After answering my questions about activation for my 5504, I asked the CSR if there was any development as far as new product.

She said they are coming out with an HD RTV with dual tuner (she didn't say dual tuner, but you know, watch one show while recording another). Granted this was not an offical company spokesperson, but my hopes were buoyed.

I searched the forum for this topic but couldn't find this news. Is this news? B.S. (Bull Poopli)? Marketing drivel?

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PhilB

· #2 · Feb 18, 2005

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Originally posted by punahou80
She said they are coming out with an HD RTV with dual tuner (she didn't say dual tuner, but you know, watch one show while recording another). Granted this was not an offical company spokesperson, but my hopes were buoyed.

I searched the forum for this topic but couldn't find this news. Is this news? B.S. (Bull Poopli)? Marketing drivel?

Did she give you an idea of how many body parts a person would have to sell to buy one of these?

There were some rumblings of such a development a few months ago after the company supplying some of the parts (I belive is was the HDTV tuner) put out a press release. Also, some powerpoint slides from DNNA show some sort of HDTV capable PVR.

Here's a link to the Broadcom press release:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050104/45738_1.html

-phil

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punahou80

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 18, 2005

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Originally posted by PhilB

Did she give you an idea of how many body parts a person would have to sell to buy one of these?

I didn't even go there (price)? I did ask when and she did not know. Her location was Texas. Does anyone know if DNNA has technical development in progress, where they would be located?

l8er

· #4 · Feb 18, 2005

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Originally posted by punahou80
... She said they are coming out with an HD RTV with dual tuner (she didn't say dual tuner, but you know, watch one show while recording another).

You do realize your single tuner 5XXX ReplayTV lets you watch one show while recording another?

punahou80

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 18, 2005

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Originally posted by l8er
You do realize your single tuner 5XXX ReplayTV lets you watch one show while recording another?

l8er,

That is only the case if the "watched" show is recorded, right? The CSR was talking about live action. My new 5504 is still in the box, so I only have experience with a SS. Smack me if I'm wrong, here...

scochran666

· #6 · Feb 18, 2005

I wonder if she is referring to the $4000 fantasy they were floating as a forthcoming product last year. Personally, I'm spending half that and ending up with 2 machines, 4 SD tuners, 2 HD tuners and a terrabyte raid 5 array.

Not that hard a decision to make.

lsarver

· #7 · Feb 18, 2005

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Originally posted by scochran666
Personally, I'm spending half that and ending up with 2 machines, 4 SD tuners, 2 HD tuners and a terrabyte raid 5 array.

Which tuners/encoders did you use?

scochran666

· #8 · Feb 21, 2005

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Originally posted by lsarver
Which tuners/encoders did you use?

For SD, I'm using the Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250's. I wish I could use the 500's (or even 150's - save a few bucks), but they aren't supported yet in MythTV (or Linux in general, for that matter).

For HD, I'll be buying a couple of pcHDTV 3000 cards. I'm hoping to budget for one more than I need, just to have in reserve, but the price I get for my Replays and Audiotrons will determine that.

jameskollar

· #9 · Feb 21, 2005

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Originally posted by scochran666
For SD, I'm using the Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250's. I wish I could use the 500's (or even 150's - save a few bucks), but they aren't supported yet in MythTV (or Linux in general, for that matter).

For HD, I'll be buying a couple of pcHDTV 3000 cards. I'm hoping to budget for one more than I need, just to have in reserve, but the price I get for my Replays and Audiotrons will determine that.

'Course if you're using Comcast as your provider, you'll want to switch out those Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250's when they begin simulcasting the analog channels in digital.

scochran666

· #10 · Feb 21, 2005

I do have Comcast. Frankly, having an HD capture card is only useful for OTA. I'm not aware of any QAM capable cards yet (although I could easily have missed one, and the pcHDTV guys say it is coming someday), and even if there were one Comcast doesn't put HD on the wire in an accessable format. I'll continue to survive with SD until the market comes up with a _reasonable_ non-broadcast HD solution. Maybe someone in a postion of power will have a stroke and release a cablecard compatible PC tuner someday. But not anytime soon, I fear.

jameskollar

· #11 · Feb 21, 2005

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Originally posted by scochran666
I do have Comcast. Frankly, having an HD capture card is only useful for OTA. I'm not aware of any QAM capable cards yet (although I could easily have missed one, and the pcHDTV guys say it is coming someday), and even if there were one Comcast doesn't put HD on the wire in an accessable format. I'll continue to survive with SD until the market comes up with a _reasonable_ non-broadcast HD solution. Maybe someone in a postion of power will have a stroke and release a cablecard compatible PC tuner someday. But not anytime soon, I fear.

Actually, the Fusion HDTV Gold 3 is a QAM capable card. I currently can get all of my locals in HD and some of the premium channels (for some reason they're in the clear, however, I am paying for them anyway so it's not like I'm stealing). It also can grab the analog signals. (shameless plug) I'm working on software for the card (see the Announcing ReplayNT thread in this forum).

jrwilliamsiii

· #12 · Feb 21, 2005

I've got a couple friends who worked on the Microsoft DVR, one of the market founders. They called it ultimate TV. Now these guys have been working for like 7 months on a new box, and they experimented with using MS Media Center PC as an OS. Linux is going to be the OS in these machines because the fees to MS made the margins too small to market the new machine by Replay.

I understand there will be and HD version and a non HD version. They looked at having the HD being somehow field upgradable but again it would be too costly. There will be dual tuners making it easier to record and view live TV.

I read in this thred that people don't do that. I have a splitter coming off my comcast box, and when I am recording I can view channels 2 - 82 without interrupting the recording.

The new machine has two tuners to permit recording two programs at the same time line.

The price point might be some where between 5 and 7 hundred dollar, initially.

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chill1

· #13 · Feb 21, 2005

I must say I have to very skeptical about such rumors. I would probably be the first to get such a product if it were released but I would not pay no where near the price range that has been quoted. I would think if DNNA had such plans they would be sending out press releases about such a product even if it were a year or more away. All I see is actually quite the opposite that DNNA is trying to rid itself of replay products by dropping their prices significantly. Getting rid of replay seems the only thing on DNNA's mind at this point. Why would they invest money into something that they are ridding themselves??

WannabeSQ

· #14 · Feb 21, 2005

$500 seems very reasonable to me, considering that "regular" prices of replays with the larger hard drives, (needed for HD) is pretty close to that. I will be buying at least one, depending on how it works, perhaps another.

icecow

· #15 · Feb 22, 2005

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Originally posted by scochran666
...Frankly, having an HD capture card is only useful for OTA. I'm not aware of any QAM capable cards yet

The Broadcast Flag Law only applies to OTA signal, not Cable Signal. I know you didn't say it did, and I know you may or may not care, but I wanted to point that out.

CalypsoCowboy

· #16 · Feb 22, 2005

I wouldn't suprise me if DNNA was working on a HD DVR but honestly they are behind the 8ball on this one. I do plan on upgrading to a HD DVR end of the year I'm thinking but I'm probably 99% sure I won't see anything affordable by DNNA at that time.

PhilB

· #17 · Feb 22, 2005

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Originally posted by CalypsoCowboy
I wouldn't suprise me if DNNA was working on a HD DVR but honestly they are behind the 8ball on this one. I do plan on upgrading to a HD DVR end of the year I'm thinking but I'm probably 99% sure I won't see anything affordable by DNNA at that time.

Your best bet then is the Sony OTA/CableCard unit. Currently the bookies have the unit ariving next month (March). I don't know what the odds are yet.

If Replay came out with an HD box in the $500-$700 range then I would lose all interest in the Sony box even though the Sony has no service charge.

If the ReplayHDTV box enables Show|Nav (I assume CA is gone in it's original form) and they allow the $6.95/month service discount then there's nothing that would make me hesitate about getting the box. Heck, I'd probably go ahead and get the lifetime on it as it would be my longterm PVR.

-phil

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CalypsoCowboy

· #18 · Feb 22, 2005

I currently have DirecTV so I may be going with their Media center when it comes out or I may switch to Voom and their DVR but that is a whole different animal on a whole lot of fronts.

scochran666

· #19 · Feb 22, 2005

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Originally posted by icecow
The Broadcast Flag Law only applies to OTA signal, not Cable Signal. I know you didn't say it did, and I know you may or may not care, but I wanted to point that out.

Actually, I figure it's irellevant in the long term. Cable companies as a whole are transitioning to protecting all their digital channels, preventing you from seeing them without a cable box. In my area, none of the cable HD channels are "in the clear".

That's why I mentioned the "pc tuner with a cablecard slot" - anything else will be unable to recieve CATV HD fairly soon (6-12 months).

Jeff D

· #20 · Feb 22, 2005

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Originally posted by CalypsoCowboy
I currently have DirecTV so I may be going with their Media center when it comes out or I may switch to Voom and their DVR but that is a whole different animal on a whole lot of fronts.

Didn't they announce last month that they were going to discontinue service?

As to the topic at hand...

Q1 '04

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