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Hello all. I am a musician who loves stereo! However I have three boys who crave HDMI inputs! Looking to replace my venerable Kenwood 5.1 and ran into the HDCP 2.2 fog. I called three A/V stores here in sunny Australia to ask : "If I buy a receiver without HDCP 2.2 today; will I regret it in 12 months?" They all made up some answer. So I would like to ask you, if that's ok.

1. I buy a non-HDCP 2.2 receiver.
2. In 6 months time, I buy a new Bluray player and a new 4K TV.
3. I buy a new Ultra HD movie disc, put it into my player and it says "no"

Is this a real scenario? With what sort of probability as in - very possible or hardly likely?

I have the chance to buy an Integra DTR-50.2B at a good price and I don't want buyers remorse. However normally my budget for an A/V receiver would be $750 max.

Thanks for your time - it's much appreciated.
 

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If you are buying a 4k tv in 6 months absolutely wait that long for a 2.2 compatible receiver.
Every brand should have the low end and midrange models out by then. Don't buy a receiver
unless it will handle the video switching internally.

If you weren't upgrading to a 4k display right away I would buy a higher end 2013/14 model
for barely above 1/2 list price. That Integra is similar to what i'm talking about, but a little old
at 4 years and Onkyo/Integra was plagued with heavy hdmi board failure rates that year.
Don't buy it. http://www.soundandvision.com/content/integra-dtr-502-av-receiver
 

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Most 4K sets are inferior to plasma or OLED. I'd not worry about it for the time being. There's also next to no 4K content available. The chances of you finding 4K blurays to rent will be slim to none since they'll be incompatible with all of the currently existing bluray players.
 

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Most 4K sets are inferior to plasma or OLED. I'd not worry about it for the time being. There's also next to no 4K content available. The chances of you finding 4K blurays to rent will be slim to none since they'll be incompatible with all of the currently existing bluray players.

UHD Blu-ray is supposed to be out later this year so I would expect all major Blu-ray releases to have UHD versions available soon after.


To the OP...
If you're worried about UHD compatibility then wait until a few months and get a receiver you know will work. I would guess all new receiver models will support HDCP 2.2. They may not support it at the fastest speeds but they'll work fine with basic UHD blu-ray.
 

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The major AVR brands will release multiple AVRs with 2.2 HDCP capability this Fall in the USA and Europe..
These will be announced @ IFA and CEDIA in September...
Don't really know about down-under, my estimate would be early 2016...

Wait...
It doesn't make much sense to buy an obsolete AVR...

Just my $0.02... ;)
 

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Thanks very much for the responses. Very helpful. I am going to wait, since it's an important purchase. Thanks again.
 

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Not wise to jump and buy and AVR right now since the new ones with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 will shortly start flooding the scene.
 

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Hello all. I am a musician who loves stereo! However I have three boys who crave HDMI inputs! Looking to replace my venerable Kenwood 5.1 and ran into the HDCP 2.2 fog. I called three A/V stores here in sunny Australia to ask : "If I buy a receiver without HDCP 2.2 today; will I regret it in 12 months?" They all made up some answer. So I would like to ask you, if that's ok.

1. I buy a non-HDCP 2.2 receiver.
2. In 6 months time, I buy a new Bluray player and a new 4K TV.
3. I buy a new Ultra HD movie disc, put it into my player and it says "no"

Is this a real scenario? With what sort of probability as in - very possible or hardly likely?

I have the chance to buy an Integra DTR-50.2B at a good price and I don't want buyers remorse. However normally my budget for an A/V receiver would be $750 max.

Thanks for your time - it's much appreciated.
Wait. Give it at least a year from the first ones to market. The software will be buggy for a while. Devices will not negotiate successfully. Some will be slow and unreliable.
 

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UHD Blu-ray is supposed to be out later this year so I would expect all major Blu-ray releases to have UHD versions available soon after.
Yes there captain obvious. That's what I said in my note below...

"The chances of you finding 4K blurays to rent will be slim to none since they'll be incompatible with all of the currently existing bluray players."

Those 4k blurays are not going to be compatible with any of the bluray players that anybody has now. Even the PS4 and XBone won't support it. UHD discs will likely follow the direction of every other format, particularly niche ones. If you're happy paying $40 for the disc to see a movie then UHD will be great if you can find a store that carries them.

A lot of media is moving AWAY from Bluray as it is. Most TV shows have switched back to distribution by DVD only for physical media.
 

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UHD discs will likely follow the direction of every other format, particularly niche ones. If you're happy paying $40 for the disc to see a movie then UHD will be great if you can find a store that carries them.
The same thing was said about CDs wrt vinyl albums...CDs could never replace the analog sound, never be good enough - and here we are now...CDs having all but completely crushed vinyl albums. VHS was great, but DVD was better, and obviously so. But BluRays were not the same huge jump, so they would never take off, especially since they originally cost more - and here we are now, BRs are the norm.


I suspect UHD will replace BR in the same way BR replaced DVD and CDs replaced vinyl. It will simply take time. The real issue is how the studios feel about it. If they want HDCP 2.2 and UHD to be the next standard, we really don't have much say in it...since they really do not care what we think.
 
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