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I have had several AV receivers (Onkyo, Denon, Sony) I hook my HD DVR cable box to the receivers Cab/Sat HDMI input, run HDMI from the receiver to the TV ARC HDMI input. Set all components to auto turn on with the one cable remote power on button. Everything powers up. Then the receiver switches from Cab/Sat HDMI input to TV input, and I get video, but no sound. The only one that had a delete option was the Denon, I deleted the TV input in the menu and it would stay on Cab/Sat. Most people now use cable or sat, not over the air analog TV. Has anyone else had this problem? Why are the Receiver manufactures screwing this up?
 

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This is standard behavior for ARC enabled equipment. The newest Denon receivers have the ability to disable this switch, which is a nice solution. Since I use a Harmony, I just programmed a turn on sequence which waits a few seconds before switching the input. I use ARC all the time when I am streaming from the intertubes, so although I don't use OTA via the TV much, I do use ARC all the time.
 

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Why they did not have it power up at last input used seems like a stupid design.
If you have HDMI-CEC disabled on the TV, the AVR will power up to last source used; however, when you have HDMI(ARC) enabled, the AVR will switch to the "TV Audio" source. Another work around is to disable HDMI(ARC) and instead use an optical cable from the TV --> AVR. There is no loss in audio quality.
 

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If you have HDMI-CEC disabled on the TV, the AVR will power up to last source used; however, when you have HDMI(ARC) enabled, the AVR will switch to the "TV Audio" source. Another work around is to disable HDMI(ARC) and instead use an optical cable from the TV --> AVR. There is no loss in audio quality.
But that defeats the reason they made HDMI, doesn't it?
 

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HDMI(ARC) is simply a feature that makes use of the HDMI cable, not the reason they made HDMI. As noted, you have several choices to work around this issue that exists on virtually all AVRs released in the past 5 years.
HDMI was promoted to get rid of all cables but one between components. This just seems to me a major cluster **** by the 2 segments of AV makers not shooting at the same target. Having to run an optical cable seems like a step back from intended purpose.
 

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Dont have this issue with my Denon 4100, every device (BluRay Payer, PS4, and HD Cable STB) is hooked up via HDMi cable except my Cd Player(Dig. Coax.) Then HDMI to TV! But, my 65" plasma isnt 3D capable either!
 
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