[Ron Tobin]

Have I missed a posting about this or am I the only one making this observation. But I just made a recording and HDNet is showing as 1920x1080. Could this be an end to HD Lite, at least for HDNet.


I just checked all the other HD stations, and HDNet is the only one that shows at full resolution.

 

[CPanther95]

What provider?

 

[Kirby Baker]

D*

 

[Ron Tobin]

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPanther95 What provider?

Sorry, I forgot to mention that it's DirecTV.

 

[darinp2]

Maybe this is a response to some kind of lawsuit or something.


It isn't the resolution downrezzing that bothers me most, it is the extra compression that causes the need for downrezzing the resolution. Just upping the resolution while keeping the same added compression doesn't mean the end of HD-Lite to me. That can make the images worse. Although HDNet wasn't one of the channels being overcompressed a lot, last time I looked.


--Darin

 

[Smthkd]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Tobin Have I missed a posting about this or am I the only one making this observation. But I just made a recording and HDNet is showing as 1920x1080. Could this be an end to HD Lite, at least for HDNet. I just checked all the other HD stations, and HDNet is the only one that shows at full resolution.

WoW! I think he's right! HDNet looks 100% better on my HDtv set today!

 

[NetworkTV]

How does HDNET Movies look? I heard that was the worse looking of the two as far as compression goes.

 

[vanrobson]

Just took a sample at 16.76Mbit 1920x1088 off my hd tivo. Resolution has gone up, bitrate is about the same. There's much more noticable macroblocking on the basketball game right now. I will compare later today with Nothing but Trailers I have tons of them at 1280x1088.

 

[ANSEK]

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanrobson Just took a sample at 16.76Mbit 1920x1088 off my hd tivo. Resolution has gone up, bitrate is about the same. There's much more noticable macroblocking on the basketball game right now. I will compare later today with Nothing but Trailers I have tons of them at 1280x1088.

How are you able to check resolution with the HD TiVo. I thought that feature was disabled with the last update?

 

[Kirby Baker]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANSEK How are you able to check resolution with the HD TiVo. I thought that feature was disable with the last update?

we (Ron and I) arent doing that. we (Ron and I) are capturing with a r5000 and checking the file resolution with a program like HDTV2MPEG.

 

[balazer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanrobson There's much more noticable macroblocking on the basketball game right now.

Please refrain from using words that you don't know how to use correctly.

 

[AAF]

Quote:

Please refrain from using words that you don't know how to use correctly.

Gee, somehow I suspect a really nice response like that will generate some other words - perhaps relating to physically impossible things.


Just a guess.

 

[vanrobson]

sorry my english is not perfect. Is it called mpeg blocking? When there's high motion and you get big square blocks? english is not my first language sorry about that.

 

[dmbatch]

Quote:

Originally Posted by balazer Please refrain from using words that you don't know how to use correctly.

Whoops.

http://images.animationfactory.com/a...outh_lg_wm.gif

 

[jdspencer]

So if I can get up early enough tomorrow morning I can see the shuttle land in higher HD.


HDNet schedule shows 4:30 to 5:00 ET for the landing.

 

[Todd]

I was wondering if something had happened because I just checked out the Heart concert that's on tonight and it looks stunning.

 

[Cheezmo]

That explains the bitrate imbalance between HDNet and the PPV channel.


If both were the same, they would each get about 14Mb/s.


Since HDNet is full 1080i, and the PPV channel is 1280x1080i, we get about 16-17 for HDNet and

 

[Keenan]

Have any of the other HD channels had a resolution increase...?

 

[Cheezmo]

So, the question is...


Which looks better?


1920x1080i @ 16Mb/s (now)

1280x1080i @ 18Mb/s (up until recently)


I would expect that on most sets the 1280x1080i @ 18 would look better.


The bitrate should go up to 18 at 9:36 (central time) when the PPV movie ends. That would be a good test to see if you can see the difference between 16Mb/s and 18Mb/s.

 

[MnGuy]

Any speculation on the reason for the change?