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Hey gang. So I have a Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH receiver. Although I have a nice new SVS surround set-up in my home theater, I need a good pair of headphones for when the kids are asleep, primarily for home theatre usage (Blu-ray and games via PS3, video content via computer), but music as well.


I'm considering getting either the Denon AH-D2000 or AH-D5000 as I prefer closed-back cans. I'm looking for pros/cons of these Denons, and other recommendations if you have them! I'm looking for a long-term investment here that I can enjoy for many years (mod down the line if I want, etc). Right now I'm leaning towards the D-5000 because of the natural Mahogany cups--as a guitarist I love the natural acoustics of wood.


Also, do I need to have a headphone amplifier, or will I be okay plugging into my receiver directly? As another option, I have a set of Pioneer SE-DIR800C wireless headphones. The cans are broken, but I still have the processor/transmitter (which does Dolby Headphone), which has a headphone jack. I honestly know nothing about this part of it--I literally just learned of the existence of headphone amplifiers today while doing some research, lol.


Thanks for the advice!
 

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I have the Denon D2000 and later upgraded to the D7000. Nice headphones, they are keepers. The D5000 and D7000 are better sounding than the D2000, and yes, they feel and look awesome with their wood earcups.


I'm not sure the D7000 is worth the premium over the D5000 because the difference in sound is fairly subtle but the D5000 should be a nice improvement over the D2000


You don't *need* a headphone amp, they are a bit current hungry but they will should work fine out of a receiver. I find a headphone amp does improve the bass quality, but it's a subtle improvement at best. For movies, Dolby headphone would be useful but for general music listening, I'd plug directly into a receiver.
 

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google headfi and sorry for your wallet


I would get the 5000s - I had both the 5k and 7k, sold the 7k
 

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Thanks for the opinions, gang! I've been leaning towards the 5000s. Amazon has them for $389, but doing some research it seems that's not a huge sale or anything, so I might wait a bit longer to see if they drop.


I'm not sure I'll notice the difference at first compared to the 2000 (haven't heard either and have no option to ... stationed abroad), but thinking long-term it makes sense to me to go with the 5000s. Lately I've been more into getting something really nice and keeping it for a while, rather than my old practice of upgrading every few years. I still love my 56" HDTV from 2004
 

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Why do you prefer closed-back cans?


The only disadvantage to open air headphones is sound leakage - you'll hear things that go on around you, and other people will be able to hear what you're listening to. But if you're alone or in a mostly quiet room, that disadvantage goes away. I have (open air) Sennheiser HD595, which I think were around $200 when I bought them ... they're not quite the top-tier, which it sounds like you may be looking for, but they're very good headphones at their price point and I really like them a lot.


Also, I think Dolby Headphone is great. There used to be a demo on Dolby's website, but I can't find it right now after a quick search. I don't know anything about your pioneer headphone amp (or whatever it is) so I can't say much else about that. I hope it can drive a pair of headphones without another amp. I drive my Sennheisers directly from my receiver, which has Dolby Headphone built-in, and I'm happy.
 

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Headphones are like speakers: there's no one best. They tend to have different sounds, and people prefer one or another. You should try several. As someone suggested, headfi is a specialist headphone site. You'll find more information there than here.


In theory you shouldn't need a separate amp, but in practice a lot of receivers don't put much effort into their headphone output. To be sure you'd need someone who has done critical listening with headphones on your specific receiver.


By the way, home theater usage with headphones scares me. It's really easy to get phone too loud, and damage your hearing. Be sure you understand the level your phones are playing at, and what can be done without damage.
 

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Why do you prefer closed-back cans?

I'm sure I'll get a pair of open-back phones down the road, but for now, silence is key. I have a nice new speaker system, so the only time I'll be using these is when I need to be quiet--little kids are asleep in the adjacent room or playing quietly in the same room, etc. The point of these is to allow me to listen to what i want even when the house needs to be quiet. All the Senns I've heard have been really leaky--probably fine for most people, just not for this situation.
 

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By the way, home theater usage with headphones scares me. It's really easy to get phone too loud, and damage your hearing. Be sure you understand the level your phones are playing at, and what can be done without damage.

thanks for the warning, and I will be careful. But in my experience so far, on my Pioneer phones, I can actually keep the volume lower than I would through speakers, as my ears can pick up all the subtleties more easily than in my large room. Maybe that's just Dolby Headphone, I don't know.
 

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I have Sennheiser HD-600s and AKG K701s - both are open backed, and I don't think sound leakage would be much of an issue for your purposes. They're certainly not going to bother somebody in an adjacent room, let alone somebody sleeping. I think the HD-650s would be an excellent choice. But if you want closed cans, then that's fine of course.


You really shouldn't need an amp for any of these.
 

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BTW--I'm sort of moving back to the D2000s now, lol. I'm just not sure the D5000s will be good enough (to me personally, as I'm not a true "audiophile"), to justify the extra $150. For that, I could get an amp down the road for my D2000s if I wanted.


Put it this way ... If the D2000s drop close to $200 (they are $238.83 on AMZ right now), I'll probably pick them up before Christmas.


I just wish I lived somewhere where I could test some out. Oh well. That's another reason to go for the D2000s ... less investment risk.
 

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does anyone have experiance using the new Marshall headphones? Reasonably priced at $100 but thoght they might be more of a gimmick than good sounding headphones that can handle deep bass and high freqencies
 
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