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Digital Projection has a new exclusive reference 1080p projector being released Manana.


It is based on the IS8 chassis which is more restrained than the Cinema Refrence HD 35. Smaller box, the Hd 35 is 4K lumens to 14K lumens, to much for my retina. The Highlite 10K goes from 2K to 8K.


This will be the projector to own if you want Cinema DLP performance in a compact chassis.


NOTE> TI WILL NOT INTRODUCE THE SMALLER 1080p(without any wobulation)at Infocomm Nor CEDIA. There are delays, expect the new prototypes for CES 2006.


So if you want the best this year this will be it.


Underneath is an image of the IS8, on which this new projector is based. Basically devoid of D Cinema server connectivity circuitry.
 

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Frontal view. In my opinion this projector has a better fit and finish than it's larger siblings, the Is 15 and HD35. The performance is nearly identical except for the extreme light output of the larger chassis.
 

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Minolta was making a very precise servo tracking 1.45 lens for this.


With this memories you could actually change aspect ratios in a properly configured system at the touch of presets.
 

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Ooh, it's tantalizing that they would have precise zooming. I'd love to have a 2.35:1 constant-height setup in my new theater. Of course that's 2 years away so who the heck knows what will be available then.
 

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Good to see DP isn't hiding who makes the box.
Ha Ha. That was the IS8 the new one is made Jointly by NEC and DP but with the HL10K the exclusive Worldwide Rights are Digital Projection's.
 

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Dont know but probably NO, NO, maybe.



If it is based on a strip down is8 this projector requires a 1080p input.


DP is looking to offer 3 different Rialta based scaler options.


The press release should be out this afternoon.


List price without lens is under 100K. But I hate to ask what the new Minolta Smart Lens cost.
 

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Ooh, it's tantalizing that they would have precise zooming. I'd love to have a 2.35:1 constant-height setup in my new theater. Of course that's 2 years away so who the heck knows what will be available then.
It's not only precise zooming, it is precise zooming, with servo controlled anamorphic lens turret.


Then you could use a 2.35 torus which is the perfect match to the anamorphic adapter from a slight pincushioning and better focus standpoint.
 

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Anyone that wants the added depth, enhanced contrast ratio, color dynamic range, and 3-d effect it provides. The absence of kickback lights from the side walls, and ceiling is probably a contributor to some of those effects.


It makes 35 MM look like 70MM, and made the Original E Cinema starwars presentation look better than on a flat screen according to Gary Reber.


The TORUS focuses much better on 35 mm anamorphic than a flat screen.


I do not know why, but to me it is either a Torus or Optical Rear screen, I would not get caught having ANYTHING to do with drop down or perforated, it destroys the presentation. Unless of course the new PRESTGIOUS NAME WITHELD daylight FP screen (SONY Black Screen Killer in size and wavelenght) convinces me to the contrary. Oops it's not Cedia time. ;)
 

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I suppose it's foolish to even bother asking the price on this........
 

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Peter,

At least you don't try hide the flag you are carrying ! I do think that you could understand even if you would choose not to go in the direction I did. I have a very clean looking highly functional theater that is used as something of a sanctuary. The lights going down and there being few reflective surfaces increases immersion in the presentation. Yes , it doesn't look like a giant plasma, instead it looks and functions as a small movie theater. I can see your reasons especially in south Florida for going the way you have but I know that in my theater when the lights go down I have one of the best performing facilities for it's intended purpose.This requires a perforated or acoustic screen and total light control.


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Peter,

I have one of the best performing facilities for it's intended purpose.This requires a perforated or acoustic screen and total light control.


Art
While I agree that the execution of your cinema is probably flawless, I still think that had you done the TORUS Tour I proposed, where you would have visited the only two Torus Rooms designed by the now defunct Gerald Nash (original patent holder), you would have realized that the TORUS is a requirement for immersive light controlled screening rooms.


"This requires a perforated or acoustic screen ."


This part now is a fallacy of Babylonian proportions, and I would use the gas chamber on the idiot(s) that convinced the planet that this is the only way.


That would have been proved to you beyond doubt upon experiencing a 166" Torus flanked by 7 foot tall line arrays, and with the center channel under neath physically, but not psycho-acoustically. Even phantom center "images" well within the center of the screen from any of the 13 seats. Obygin has mentioned that the person I most respect in audio, Peter McGrath is now advocating phantom center. "Perf screen's best" IS a fallacy and I am stopping it's viral-like dissipation right here right now. On that one you are wrong.


In addition to the HT Torus I would have shown you 4 different TORUS movie theater configurations also designed by Gerald Nash. These AMC auditoriums have also been fitted with cinema dlp in Orlando and LA.


Of all these 2 are mediocre,1 is good, but one in particular is drop dead spectacular it has to do with constant height 2.35 torus using the anamorphic lens in the Turret.


To me at the present time this is the only good solution for single lens FP. Had you seen it you would have agreed. The 70 mm effect is instantaneous. You sit there nearly crying from the glorious visual extravaganza. Then you can walk over to the next auditorium showing the same movie on a flat perf, and the image looses it's vividness and nuance, the image dies. That is what a perf screen is, an image killer.


So I truly believe that you have the finest implementation of your school of thought, but frankly that school of thought does not represent the ultimate no compromise Picture with the appropriately corresponding sound.


Now the rear screen remodelling solution for the G-90's would be a step in the right direction, although the sound issues would have to be resolved.


You may not even need an expensive optical screen, if you can find a greyish stretch screen sample you could try it in your room.


I just found out that by going with 10 mm float glass instead of 6 mm float glass that the reflectivity increases from 92% to 97% (wich is important for the G-90 stack).


No siree bob you still can make your room much better Art. Perhaps one day you will thank me for this "intervention".
 

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I was told over the phone buy a rep from DPI that this PJ was for movie cinema venues and it cost around 200K
Taker if you are talking about the projector in my pictures, that is an IS8.


After the Showeast presentation this projector became hot property, at the show one could have bought it for 95. Right now is probably closer to 135. These E-cinema pieces dont have a separate dealer cost, one price fits all.


The IS 8 It is the best Digital Cinema Projector for HT indubitably, specially when the new Minolta high precision digital servo tracking zoom lens is available, it is already for the IS 15 (similar to the HD35) but, it was not as of recently shipping for the IS8, they were increasing the digital sampling of the lens to make it more accurate. Specially when used with the anamorphic lens turret.



But the new projector announced yesterday is the Highlight 10K a stripped down version of the IS8, it will list without lens for under 100K, I can assure you.
 

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For ~$60K, I could do 9 IF 7205s with an image splitter and have 3840x2160, enough for the 4K standard! (if I had $60K....)
 
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