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I read that another user now has the japanese boxset at home now but very little time. Said transfer for 1 and 3 looked pretty good. 2 looked soft (maybe same transfer like germany/us?) Lets hope for a nice screenshot comparison soon
 

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Originally Posted by plissken99 /forum/post/20909416


Wow, the DVD actually looks better. Haven't had that reaction since the UK Escape From New York blu ray. Truly disgusting.

It's certainly not an incredible difference, but if you call that DVD "better"... I don't even know what to say to that.


Thanks Fenders and MSGohan - I'm clearly not with it today.
I'm sure it's an older transfer and it's a shame I'll have to keep the DVD around for any extras, but this has convinced me it'll be worth picking up sometime before Halloween.
 

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Scene from Hellraiser Blu-ray:




Scene from Hellbound Blu-ray:




That is so clearly an upscale and the whole movie is in this horrible image quality.
 

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Somebody from image needs to address this...
 

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Scene from Hellraiser Blu-ray:




Scene from Hellbound Blu-ray:




That is so clearly an upscale and the whole movie is in this horrible image quality.

Just to clarify here, which two BDs are these? Are these the Image editions of both? I'm guessing Hellraiser is the Image disc due to the comparatively warmer timing
 

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First of all, those images are mislabeled. They're both from the first Hellraiser film. I'm guessing the top one is from Image Entertainment's Blu-Ray and the bottom one is the Anchor Bay's DVD. Correct?


Second, anyone who says that the top image is an upscale of the bottom image has absolutely no idea of what an upscale is and, or looks like.


This is 100% NOT an upscale!!!


Bad transfer... Sure!

No, that scene is included in II as a flashback. Hence being used to compare the two releases. And they (or we, since I'm among them) are calling upscale on the bottom image (Hellraiser II). The disparity in detail is pronounced. The bottom image has the better tones, with Image's Hellraiser making every one appear to have chronic carotenosis, but that's about all.
 

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Just to clarify: The screenshot of Hellraiser (I) is taken from the "old" Anchor Bay Blu-ray not the new Image. Personally I think the Anchor Bay BD is as good as it can get (judged by the unsoiled depcition of the grain structure) with the available master. The Image BD can only be equal or worse. Better only if they create a completely new master which I highly doubt.


Sorry if this caused some confusion.
 

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Seemingly the transfer for "Hellbound: Hellraiser II" is the same world wide.

It's bad- but it's not an upscale. The grain is just to grainy for that to be true.
 

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Insanely soft. Having viewed an actual 35mm print a few years ago, I must say, the screenshots do not in any way represent what's on the 35mm prints. This is a must avoid release.
 

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You can see in those caps that Hellraiser II is actually HD, just soft.

...Really? The German BD is so obviously an upscale that it borders on the ridiculous
 

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...Really? The German BD is so obviously an upscale that it borders on the ridiculous

As long as I'm viewing the german caps correctly...

Look at the captures of the puzzle pieces in the fullscreen 1080p comparison. Look at the width of the deliniation between pieces. There appears to be a reasonable degree of sharpness and a 1 pixel solid black line in the German BD cap. This appears as a smeary mess in the DVD cap.) This proves that Hellbound coems from an HD transfer as there is significantly more detail in this particular capture than can be handled by 480p.

If you don't understand why after viewing those captures, then I don't know how else to explain this to you.
 

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Seems the first information on the japanese king record boxset has arrived on another forum. Specifications is up and screenshots of all movies. Based on screens I would say:


Hellraiser - old anchor bay disc still best overall, PQ and extras


Hellbound - possible tie between image disc and king records. Looks the same so probably same master and maybe even transfer?


Hellraiser 3 - king records is only disc out. 93min r-rated, OAR and grain intact so pretty nice PQ but only TrueHD 2.0 (dvd had DD5.1 and DTS 5.1) Upcoming german disc has DTS-HD MA 5.1 but maybe cut.
 
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