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I am looking for a speaker that is very clear, crisp, on the bright side, and a tad bit forward.

Klipsch RF/RB - really liked it but thought the mid-range was tinny and really absent compared to other speakers. I liked the crispness though.
Veritas and RC line - midrange sounded muffled, kinda flat, and I missed the high frequencies. Sounded great for acoustic and classical though and "In the arms of an Angel", though I'm not into that type of music. Did not like them for HT.
Pioneers BS22 and they just failed to wow me in any way, really flat and completely lacking in dynamics.
Polk's TSI they sounded good but didn't wow me. More of a jack of all trades but master on none speaker to me.


There is not way for me to audition any other speaker locally.


I did hear several comparisons between Klipsch and B&W on youtube and I must say I really liked the B&W mid-range much more. I know that this is NO way to really compare speakers but it confirmed my first impressions about Klipsch. BTW there is no way I can afford B&W.


I will be listening to about 50/50 between HT and music.
 

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What type of sound does Paradigm have? Is it good with both HT and music? Also is it possible to get new online? Do they only sell Brick and Mortar?
 

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What type of sound does Paradigm have? Is it good with both HT and music? Also is it possible to get new online? Do they only sell Brick and Mortar?
I'm not familiar with the newer versions of Paradigm's Monitor series (versions 5 and up), but versions 3 and 4 were:

- bright, with a very open top end;

- forward mids; and

- a good bottom end (especially for a bookshelf speaker).


I believe Paradigm only sells through authorized retailers, which you can find here: Where to Buy?
 

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Originally Posted by Manbearpig01  /t/1474906/help-finding-a-good-bookshelf-speaker-200-400-pair#post_23369667


What type of sound does Paradigm have? Is it good with both HT and music? Also is it possible to get new online? Do they only sell Brick and Mortar?

I have a pair of monitor titans, and their sound is described as clean and clear, as that is what they are known for. I mainly used them for home theater and i thought they did very well compared to the polk monitors i had before them.


Anything v.6 and below are very hard to find nowadays, ive been looking for a pair of atoms or minis for sone time with no luck. They do sell them in B&M stores but as i said, pretty rare now unless you go for v.7.
 

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I would check these Behringer 2031p speakers out, they have a very flat response and terrific off-axis response, so they sound good with every frequency region. They even have pretty good bass extension, going down to the 50 hz range nicely. The drawbacks are they are pretty large for bookshelf speakers and they are a lower impedance load. As long as you aren't running them on a cheap receiver with a whole bunch of other low impedance speakers, they will do fine. At $400 there are a lot of good bookshelf speakers out there, look at Arx A1s, Hsu HB-1s, Ascend CBM-170s, HTD Level Threes, Aperion 5b, and so on. Check these out too, they measure superbly.
 

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Ok I will consider Paradigm. What other options are there based on what I said I'm looking for in a speaker? BTW I won't be able to drive any 4ohm speakers.
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At $400 there are a lot of good bookshelf speakers out there, look at Arx A1s, Hsu HB-1s, Ascend CBM-170s, HTD Level Threes, Aperion 5b, and so on.[/URL] out too, they measure superbly.

Thanks I am aware of these speakers and I know they are reputable. Do any of these have the sound I'm looking for though?
 

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I completely forgot about KEF. They are kinda bright right? I heard great things about KEF and completely forgot to consider them.


Can anyone comment and/or compare KEF, PSB, Paradigm, and Arx for me based on their experiences?


I also found some Paradigm Studio 20's v.3 for $380 but I seriously doubt that the bid will stay that low.
 

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I would check these Behringer 2031p speakers out, they have a very flat response and terrific off-axis response, so they sound good with every frequency region. They even have pretty good bass extension, going down to the 50 hz range nicely. The drawbacks are they are pretty large for bookshelf speakers and they are a lower impedance load. As long as you aren't running them on a cheap receiver with a whole bunch of other low impedance speakers, they will do fine. At $400 there are a lot of good bookshelf speakers out there, look at Arx A1s, Hsu HB-1s, Ascend CBM-170s, HTD Level Threes, Aperion 5b, and so on. Check these out too, they measure superbly.

I read a lot of praise on those behringer b2031p, but I always get skeptical the more praise I hear about a speaker. I wonder how the 2031p sounds though. I may be in the market for nearfield desktop speakers.


Have you compared with other passive monitors?
 

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BTW I won't be able to drive any 4ohm speakers.
Any receiver could drive the Behringers. You just wouldn't want to run them hard on a really bad receiver.
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I read a lot of praise on those behringer b2031p, but I always get skeptical the more praise I hear about a speaker. I wonder how the 2031p sounds though. I may be in the market for nearfield desktop speakers.


Have you compared with other passive monitors?
I have compared the Behringers with other monitors. They are very good- for the price. There are better, of course, but you are going to have to pay. JBL, Mackie, and Adam make some great monitors, but they are all self powered and pretty much start at $500 a pair. If you want a inexpensive, passive monitor with decent bass extension, you aren't going to beat the Behringers.
 

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Yeah, I am contemplating trying the behringer 2031p. I need to find some time to go check them out, I think they have them at guitar center.


I think I read they sounded very similar to the ascend cbm-170se. However, I don't know how much truth to that there is.
 

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Yeah, I am contemplating trying the behringer 2031p. I need to find some time to go check them out, I think they have them at guitar center.


I think I read they sounded very similar to the ascend cbm-170se. However, I don't know how much truth to that there is.

I haven't seen Behringer monitors at any of the Guitar Centers I have been to.
 

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Can anyone comment and/or compare KEF, PSB, Paradigm, and Arx for me based on their experiences?

Anybody?
 

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I just got back from demoing the Hb1 mk2's at Hsu's and and I must say I couldn't believe the soundstage these put out. For $300.00 a pair its pretty crazy on my way back home I found myself comparing these with commercial theatre speakers. The sound stage is that huge. No joke. It was almost like being in a theatre. For $300.00, I would definately recommend it if your looking for warm, envoloping sound, and great soundstage. As far as music goes, I thought it was pretty good as well. Nothing spectacular, but good overall. When they played a movie clip for the first time I caught myself literally saying "wow". Again, cant brlieve you get this much soundstage from $300.00 a pair speakers.


I'm just a guy with average ears btw. Tommorow I'm heading over to ascend to demo out 170 Se and 340's. Will let you know how it sounds.


For now, the main thing about these speakers is, most of sound will mimic what you would hear in a movie theatre. This is what you should expect from these speakers.
 
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