I have my HLN61 for many months and I've been very happy with it. HD content is outstanding and DVD content is excellent. Yesterday, I decided to take it to the next level by replacing my Pan RP91 DVD player with Sammy HD931 w/ DVI. When I play movie, any movie.. The picture was horrible, I am not sure how to describe it. I thing, it's motion artifact problem, espeically when there are a lot of moving objects in the scene. I can't even watch it, my wife and my 8 years old son even noticed it. Did I miss something? The DVI button was set to blue for 720p. and I tried them all, red, green.. same outcome. I am using DVI cable that is included. I appreciate any advice..
HELP!! HLN61 and HD931 DVD combo = BAD
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Did you check out the DVI cable?
I have wondered about this:
The Samsung HLN sets all have the Faroudja DCDi chip in them.
The Samsung 931 DVD player also has the Faroudja chip doing image enahancement.
Would there be problems created by running content through this process twice? (Image qualitywise)
I know that happens to an image when you run image processing twice and just thought that maybe you would want to turn one of the DCDi processes off when watching on this combo.
Maybe this is the reason they are offering the Samsung 841 soon, to pair up with the HLM, HLN, HLP sets that already have the Faroudja chip.
Just a rookies question to a gang of pros......
The Samsung HLN sets all have the Faroudja DCDi chip in them.
The Samsung 931 DVD player also has the Faroudja chip doing image enahancement.
Would there be problems created by running content through this process twice? (Image qualitywise)
I know that happens to an image when you run image processing twice and just thought that maybe you would want to turn one of the DCDi processes off when watching on this combo.
Maybe this is the reason they are offering the Samsung 841 soon, to pair up with the HLM, HLN, HLP sets that already have the Faroudja chip.
Just a rookies question to a gang of pros......
The Faroudja processing should only be applied to the 480i interlaced image, so once the DVD player does it and sends it to your DLP set as a 720p image, there's nothing more for the television to do (i.e. the processing is already complete at this point). Hence, I don't believe double DCDi processing is something which can occur.
My personal opinion is that the HD931 has serious image problems as a general design fault. I know lots of folks like them with the Samsung DLPs, but they seem to have a lot of problems with many other sets, so I would question the DVD player design.
My personal opinion is that the HD931 has serious image problems as a general design fault. I know lots of folks like them with the Samsung DLPs, but they seem to have a lot of problems with many other sets, so I would question the DVD player design.
I was not aware of real problem with the player. I've heard many good reviews about this combo. The player is going back. I will have to wait for a better play to become available. Like I said, I've got it for resonable price, I figured I'll give it a try. I guess, I will keep on using RP91. Thanks all.
I returned the HD931 yesterday. Mention that I noticed too many motion artifact. The sale rep actually acknonwledge that, he shaked his head and said "yeap". After talking to him for a while, I learned that. It's not a player and not a TV neither. It's the size of the TV and viewing distance. He said it did it to all TV, you will see less artifact on the smaller TV and if you're far enough not to notice it. Kindna make sense to me.. The thing is: I've never seen it with component(maybe it is there, but analog cleans it up) I think that is probably why many people said component is sometime looks better than DVI. I guess, I will stick with component for a while. And that's the scoop!
I think you came to the wrong conclusion. You had a defective player. I have the 931 hooked to my HLN via DVI @ 720p and there are no significant motion artifacts. If you are seeing them, I bet the player had a misaligned laser and was dropping data. When that happens, you will see macro-blocking and the MPEG motion artifacts you describe. The 931 has a few technical issues, but what you observed is not normal. The HLN/931 combo produces stunning (for a DVD) images.
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Size of the TV or distance from the screen does not cause or help motion artifacts. It's the incoming signal. Get another player.
| Originally posted by double07 you will see less artifact on the smaller TV and if you're far enough not to notice it. |
Very well, it seems like many people have satisfied with the combo. I am not saying I will give up on it. It's just HD931 is now hard to find. I will have to wait for the replacement. The HD931 I bought was the last box at the store, I couldn't bring home diff to test. I know DVI supposes to provide the best PQ next to components. I was looking at Denon 5900, but I am not ready to spend that kind of money. V has few months backlog. Does any one know of any other brand that does DVI?
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007, I also have a sammy dlp (61 inch) and had the same problem on a new 931. I exchanged it for a toshiba sd5960 and it was also bad. I now have a momitsu v880 and the pq is stunning, I am totally satisfied with it. I use a dvi to upconvert, but the component also upconverts on the player. You should check it out at etremephono.com. Ive also heard good things (and a few bad things black and white issues )about the zenith. Jerry
jbrinegar, I'll check out momitsu and see how it stack up? I've heard that many mfgs starting to have DVI capable player by late this year. I may have to wait a little longer. I don't feel like getting a player online due to the issue that we just ran into. It will be a little difficult to return the unit. Local store is kindna nice to deal with. I shop online only if I am obsolutely know for sure. Any way thanks again everyone 
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