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Help I'm cleaning fungus on my Sony VPH-1000Q

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I am not sure if I will manage, but I hope it will be all right.


First of all. Do I need to completely remove the tubes? Is there a step by step anywhere for that? I have found step by steps for the cleaning process, but they always start after the tubes have been removed (I guess)


Although this speaks of flipping the unit around


Tips from people with experience would be greatly apprechiated.


Second. I am in Scotland (Glasgow) anyone on here know where i could easily get some cooling liquid for top up after the cleaning?


Thanks a million


Kenneth
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Are you doing all tubes. I would think it unlikely that all 3 tubes would have fungus. Mine, and others I read posts about, its usually just one tube. Be sure its fungus before you go to all that effort and yes you do have to completely remove the tube.
thanks marvin


I have fungus on blue and red. And yes I am certain that it is the fungus.

I believed that I would have to take the tubes out completely. Thanks for clearing that up.


Do you know of any step by steps for removing them?

I found something, but that involved removing yokes, 2 pole magnets etc. Is this necessary? Or is that just when replacing them?


K
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Thanks Kieth


Now if only i could find a how to remove and reseat the tubes thread I'll be a happy camper :)


K
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Thanks Kieth


Now if only i could find a how to remove and reseat the tubes thread I'll be a happy camper :)


K
Let me know when you find that thread. I'm getting ready to swap a tube too. Also check this site out. It may be all you/we need.

http://www.eboyztoyz.net/1031q/index.htm
Yeah. I was there, but can't help but think that thats a bit more deconstruction of the tube than whats necessary.


Kenneth
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Let me know when you find that thread. I'm getting ready to swap a tube too. Also check this site out. It may be all you/we need.

http://www.eboyztoyz.net/1031q/index.htm
What an excellent site! Very informative if you have that particular Sony model. Well done to the author!

Paul
The link above is OK as far as removing the tubes, but I dont do the job the way it is described. Im getting ready to de-fungus a 1031. I will take some pics over the next day or so to show you what is involved... Hopefully I will have time tonight to do the job.



Kieth
I would be forever grateful Kieth :)


Kenneth
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Originally posted by Kieth
The link above is OK as far as removing the tubes, but I dont do the job the way it is described. Im getting ready to de-fungus a 1031. I will take some pics over the next day or so to show you what is involved... Hopefully I will have time tonight to do the job.



Kieth
Yeah, I'd appreciate that too Keith.


Marvin
I defungused the grren and blue tubes on a few 1040's, 1020, and my own 1000 without removing the tubes!


its actually quite easy, my only problem was resealing the front's of the tubes and not having them leak under pressure when the new coolant is replaced and warms up


yes I did leave an air bubble ;)
Just looking at a few of those links, whish that was about when I was doing these units!


one thing, it says use aquarium sealant, be very very careful! use a non acetic sealant, that doesnt release acid as it dries, it still releases small amounts over a good week or two and this upsets the coolant, in 2 cases it made it slightly cloudy brown.


Also I noticed it said keep the coloured fluid, hmm, that is just for show, the sony guys assured me in the sd-130's and sd-187's the tubes produced all the colour, and the fluid could be the colour or clear. I did tubes with clear and coloured.


You wont get the fungus out by filtering it with filter paper, its microscopic and the fluid is too viscous to give it up easily, you need to replace it full stop.


Feel free to correct and flame me ;)
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If anybody knows of an easier way to defung tubes please let me know and I'll add it to eboyztoyz.net as an alternative method.


The instructions for fungus removal that are posted on the site were written by an AVS forum member (credited in the writeup) who kindly gave me permission to add them to the 1031Q setup guide. I've found that the technique as described works extremely well and is fairly easy. The only thing I did different is use non-aquarium, black silicone caulk rated for temperatures up to 400 degrees.


Larry


EDIT: Oh...and don't go into a pharmacy asking for a syringe - all you'll get is a dirty look ;) You can get a suitable alternative from a woodworking supply shop - they are used to squeeze glue into tight places.
I found in the end the best stuff to use is gasket sealant from the auto shop, rated to high temp's non acetic cure and it black like the originial ;)


used for head gaskets etc


and I never pulled the tubes out I was worried about alignment and stuff ;)


You just need a longer razor which is slightly flexible.


For fluid removal I use spinal needles, they are slightly flexible which is good too ;)
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Larry- We all wish for an easier method.
There are some here who claim success (And I believe them) with certain unnamed solvents being circulated in the tubes. Until the data on the solvent is released, this remains the best method I can see...



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"Yeah. I was there, but can't help but think that thats a bit more deconstruction of the tube than whats necessary.

Kenneth"


-- And thats what I meant by "I do it a bit differently." Sorry if I implied the methods in the link were wrong, as that was not my intent. I have seen a few people, for some reason unknown to me, who remove *everything* from the tubes to clean it. I feel this is just more work when it comes to putting the unit back together and setting the unit back up.


Please see the attached zip file. Its a kind of toss-together-fast-to-keep-my-word-project.
You will see I named the pics to describe what was happening. If anyone wants to take the pics and incorporate them into anything, feel free.


--Kieth

 

1031qtuberemoval.zip 468.775390625k . file

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P.S.- If some things seem to defy gravity, its because this is a ceiling mounted unit, and I removed the tube without downing the PJ. I flipped the pics so they would be easier to view...


--Kieth
Kieth,


So rather than remove the yokes you just snip the wires and pull the whole mess out unscathed? I'll have to give that a try.


I'll need to buy a better iron though since the cheap unit I've got really isn't up to snuff, and I always dread it when I have to do any soldering.


Larry
You got it Larry! Cut the wires and pull it out. There are a few benefits from this method- 1)There is far less risk (IMO) of damage to the tube, 2) Less adjustments to make to the tube magnetics when setting the unit back up and 3) when you glue the face back on the weight of the magnetics help to hold things together- no more figuring out what to set on top of the CRT. Oh- Its also faster, since you dont have to spend time working the magnetics loose.


As for soldering irons- I use a butane powered UltraTorch (About $100 from Grainger) to do my big work- It gives me the freedom to move about, heats up quickly, and works literally anywhere, except underwater. :) On my repair bench, for PCB work mostly, I use a Weller soldering station- you can pick one up at a flea market sometimes for about 25 to 50 bucks, and there isn't much that beats it - you turn this thing on and count to five, you are ready to solder that fast. A cheap Radio Shack 30-40 watt iron should suffice for most jobs, if you are on a budget. BTW- Along with a good iron, good -fresh- solder is also important.


--Kieth
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