Make sure those two Coax cables are actually connected to each other. Usually, these in-wall coax cables all run to a central distribution location and may or maynot connected to anything. If they are distributed via a coax splitter, make sure the splitter is new enough to allow the moca signal to pass through (> 1600Mhz IIRC). You should always test the two adapters by connect them directly via a short coax cable.
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I hooked both adapters up with a coax and I didn’t get a coax light to turn on. I sent them back and am going with a different brand. If I want to hook a Ethernet switch up, would I connect the modem to the switch to the moca?Make sure those two Coax cables are actually connected to each other. Usually, these in-wall coax cables all run to a central distribution location and may or maynot connected to anything. If they are distributed via a coax splitter, make sure the splitter is new enough to allow the moca signal to pass through (> 1600Mhz IIRC). You should always test the two adapters by connect them directly via a short coax cable.
What modem are you talking about? Typically, modem must be connected to a router first before it can be connected to other devices.
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The modem is a basic arris modem with one coaxial and one internet port, with two telephone ports. So I’m thinking of connecting the cat6 from the modem to the Ethernet switch, then connect a cat6 to the moca adapter. That should work correct?
Not sure if the router is included in that. If not, you can only connect one device to the modem and need a router to connect to more than one device. If the router is included inside the modem, then you can use switch to connect to as many device as you wish.
Ethernet from modem to switch will not work. This is because every device connected to a network must have an IP address assigned to it, either a public one (for devices connected directly to the Internet) or a private local address. You can think of an IP address as sort of like a phone number. There are public phone numbers reachable from the outside, and there are private exchanges with extension phone numbers that work only within the building. The modem will get an IP address from your service provider. Whatever device you connect to the modem will get an address from the service provider through the modem. Most service accounts provide ONE address for ONE device (computer, TV, router, etc.). To get more, you have to pay more.
A router will use the public internet address given it by the modem and most can also assign local addresses to one or more devices. It then "routes" messages from your local devices to the various services on the internet and routes the responses back to the devices that sent them. Most routers provide Ethernet connections for multiple devices, but if you need more, a switch will do the job.
In addition, devices connected directly to the Internet are exposed to all sorts of attacks from nefarious people. One of the things a router can do is to help you protect local devices from some of these attacks. For more elaborate protections, you need more sophisticated infrastructure devices (firewalls) but that is beyond the scope of this note.
Hope i've explained things clearly enough.
A router will use the public internet address given it by the modem and most can also assign local addresses to one or more devices. It then "routes" messages from your local devices to the various services on the internet and routes the responses back to the devices that sent them. Most routers provide Ethernet connections for multiple devices, but if you need more, a switch will do the job.
In addition, devices connected directly to the Internet are exposed to all sorts of attacks from nefarious people. One of the things a router can do is to help you protect local devices from some of these attacks. For more elaborate protections, you need more sophisticated infrastructure devices (firewalls) but that is beyond the scope of this note.
Hope i've explained things clearly enough.
There are all-in-one devices offered by various cable cos. Just don't know if OP's is such device.
So what you're saying is I would need the internet to go from the modem, to a router, and then to a switch?Ethernet from modem to switch will not work. This is because every device connected to a network must have an IP address assigned to it, either a public one (for devices connected directly to the Internet) or a private local address. You can think of an IP address as sort of like a phone number. There are public phone numbers reachable from the outside, and there are private exchanges with extension phone numbers that work only within the building. The modem will get an IP address from your service provider. Whatever device you connect to the modem will get an address from the service provider through the modem. Most service accounts provide ONE address for ONE device (computer, TV, router, etc.). To get more, you have to pay more.
A router will use the public internet address given it by the modem and most can also assign local addresses to one or more devices. It then "routes" messages from your local devices to the various services on the internet and routes the responses back to the devices that sent them. Most routers provide Ethernet connections for multiple devices, but if you need more, a switch will do the job.
In addition, devices connected directly to the Internet are exposed to all sorts of attacks from nefarious people. One of the things a router can do is to help you protect local devices from some of these attacks. For more elaborate protections, you need more sophisticated infrastructure devices (firewalls) but that is beyond the scope of this note.
Hope i've explained things clearly enough.
My current modem and wireless router are two separate devices.There are all-in-one devices offered by various cable cos. Just don't know if OP's is such device.
Then you can only use a switch after the router. There is only one device can be connected to the modem. You can add switch there but it won't you any good (first device powered up get your public IP address and the other devices connected to the switch simply can't connect to internet. Period).
Yes. If the router does not have sufficient Ethernet ports for your needs. A switch is a device like a power strip - it enables multiple Ethernet connections on one side to be used over one Ethernet on the other side. So you connect the uplink port of the switch to the router and then connect multiple devices to the switch.So what you're saying is I would need the internet to go from the modem, to a router, and then to a switch?
In your example, you have two MOCA devices over coax cable which gives you a remote Ethernet at the other end of the cable. You could use a switch at the remote end to provide multiple Ethernet ports there if you need to.
modem --> Ethernet --> router --> Ethernet --> MOCA 1 --> coax --> MOCA 2 --> Ethernet -->switch --> devices
I do this at home with several Actiontec MOCA adapters. Works quite well.
I figured it would be easier to show an image of my setup. (excuse the mess, I have a 10 month old and can't find the energy to tidy up)Yes. If the router does not have sufficient Ethernet ports for your needs. A switch is a device like a power strip - it enables multiple Ethernet connections on one side to be used over one Ethernet on the other side. So you connect the uplink port of the switch to the router and then connect multiple devices to the switch.
In your example, you have two MOCA devices over coax cable which gives you a remote Ethernet at the other end of the cable. You could use a switch at the remote end to provide multiple Ethernet ports there if you need to.
modem --> Ethernet --> router --> Ethernet --> MOCA 1 --> coax --> MOCA 2 --> Ethernet -->switch --> devices
I do this at home with several Actiontec MOCA adapters. Works quite well.
So what would I connect the coax to coming out of the wall? I assumed I have to connect it to the first moca adapter, and then connect the other coax end to my modem.
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Sorry, but did your MoCA adapters not come with an instruction/set-up manual?I figured it would be easier to show an image of my setup. (excuse the mess, I have a 10 month old and can't find the energy to tidy up)
So what would I connect the coax to coming out of the wall? I assumed I have to connect it to the first moca adapter, and then connect the other coax end to my modem.
You have to first establish a "MoCA Network" connection using the MoCA adaptor, Modem, and Router. Without the three devices connected properly, you'll have no network. This is the most important connection and you must do it correctly. The Router must loop back and talk to the MoCA adapter to establish the network.I figured it would be easier to show an image of my setup. (excuse the mess, I have a 10 month old and can't find the energy to tidy up)
So what would I connect the coax to coming out of the wall? I assumed I have to connect it to the first moca adapter, and then connect the other coax end to my modem.
Any switch will come off the router. That is, an ethernet connection between the router and the switch. The Switch can be connected beside the router or installed down stream from a second MoCA adapter via the ethernet connection.
Any additional MoCA adapters can be added as needed. Cable TV frequencies are a pass through.
Here's a schematic showing the establishment of the MoCA network and a remote MoCA connection.
Be 100% sure that you install a POE filter at the entry point of your cable. If you don't, you've exposed your network and any data available on your network to anyone that is a subscriber to the cable service you use.
(Sorry, too bad about not having any energy... Life is tough... Less energy expended to solicit internet help I guess?)
They way b curry describes is one way to do it but in my case, I have no TV service, just internet. Therefore there is no need for loopback from router to the modem and no need to worry about any TV signals. I just have coax incoming from the outside world to the modem and then modem output to Ethernet.
For each of the MOCA adapters, there is one coax connection and one Ethernet connection. The MOCA adapter just converts coax signal to Ethernet and vice versa. For me, the only use of the coax in the house is to pass Ethernet signals from one end of the house to the other.
For each of the MOCA adapters, there is one coax connection and one Ethernet connection. The MOCA adapter just converts coax signal to Ethernet and vice versa. For me, the only use of the coax in the house is to pass Ethernet signals from one end of the house to the other.
Is you modem and router one unit or do you have a separate modem and router?They way b curry describes is one way to do it but in my case, I have no TV service, just internet. Therefore there is no need for loopback from router to the modem and no need to worry about any TV signals. I just have coax incoming from the outside world to the modem and then modem output to Ethernet.
For each of the MOCA adapters, there is one coax connection and one Ethernet connection. The MOCA adapter just converts coax signal to Ethernet and vice versa. For me, the only use of the coax in the house is to pass Ethernet signals from one end of the house to the other.
The point is the work flow is the same. The loop is still there in the conversion as you describe it.
The OP does not describe his hardware. I offered the basic schematic showing workflow.
Manufactures have eliminated the coax output on newer adaptors as a cost savings forcing a splitter in front of the adapter if you need more than one coax feed at a given location.
MoCA 2.5 did eliminate the need for a POE filter as it's now built into the adapter.
Looks like you have the Arris modem and what appears to be a separate router/wifi access point (box to the right of the modem). It also looks like you have an Ethernet cable from modem to router. Is that correct?I figured it would be easier to show an image of my setup. (excuse the mess, I have a 10 month old and can't find the energy to tidy up)
So what would I connect the coax to coming out of the wall? I assumed I have to connect it to the first moca adapter, and then connect the other coax end to my modem.
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What WarHorse describes should be the case, and is the desired setup. The picture that b curry has is the best case, assuming your moca adapters bring the cable signal in with the ethernet. If not, just ignore the purple lines and hook the ethernet in to your router, coax to the wall on one side, coax on the remote side, and ethernet to the remote device.
Telling us the model of your MoCA adapters (the new ones) would help
You can add an ethernet switch plugged into the router if you need more ports, but there's 4 on the router so you may not need any more. Assuming everything works, you could even put a switch after the remote MoCA adapter.
Telling us the model of your MoCA adapters (the new ones) would help
You can add an ethernet switch plugged into the router if you need more ports, but there's 4 on the router so you may not need any more. Assuming everything works, you could even put a switch after the remote MoCA adapter.
Ok, so I got new moca adapters. I have coax going to moca port of adapter. Then coax going to from tv port of adapter to coax of modem. Ethernet from internet port of modem to internet port of router. I have a Ethernet going to Ethernet port on router.
I have another moca adapter connected to coax to the moca port and a Ethernet to a Apple TV. I have functioning internet but no moca connection. I’m about fed up with moca.
I have another moca adapter connected to coax to the moca port and a Ethernet to a Apple TV. I have functioning internet but no moca connection. I’m about fed up with moca.
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