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EMTAdam

Discussion Starter · Aug 1, 2021

We sold our home last summer and with it went my theater room. I kept my equipment but now have it crammed into a small 13x12 ft fully enclosed room, aside from a door anyways... I'm going to sell my Def Tech speakers and want to get something much smaller but keep as much sound as possible. Right now i have bp9080x's ,cs9060, and a pair of sr9080's. The bp9080s just take up too much room and are entirely overkill for such a small room. What are some good options for replacement speakers that take up considerably less space, sound great, and fit inside a budget of say.... 2k for lcr and rear surrounds?

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Ryan Statz

· #2 · Aug 1, 2021

Emotiva T1+ C2+ B1+ for ~$1k, and put the rest towards subwoofers if you don't have them anymore.

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EMTAdam

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 1, 2021

Trying to get away from towers/floor standing speakers to save space.

Zorba922

· #4 · Aug 1, 2021

EMTAdam said:
Trying to get away from towers/floor standing speakers to save space.

Then just use the B1+ for your front mains instead of the previously suggested T1+ and downsize from the C2+ to the C1+ if you need to.

In a room like that, a single Hsu VTF-2 or SVS PB1000 Pro would be all you'd need for the sub.

If you want higher WAF, look into the RSL CG5/CG25 series which have the advantage of being front ported. Free return shipping is also very nice.

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philpoe

· #5 · Aug 1, 2021

Are the SR980s too big to keep as surrounds, or do you want to match whatever brand you buy?
Would bookshelf speakers go on a shelf, stands, or do you prefer wall mounted?

EMTAdam said:
Right now i have bp9080x's ,cs9060, and a pair of sr9080's.
What are some good options for replacement speakers that take up considerably less space, sound great, and fit inside a budget of say.... 2k for lcr and rear surrounds?

RayGuy

· #6 · Aug 1, 2021 (Edited)

More info about your needs. Quantity of speakers (5,7,9,11)? Size and form factor, by position? WAF concerns? Special requirements (bass head, bright speakers, volume levels)? Any music involved, or just movies? Receiver model?

nonametofame

· #7 · Aug 1, 2021

Most Def Tech owners really enjoyed the large soundstage so KEF with their concentric drivers would be a nice move for those looking for more refinement while retaining wide dispersion.

Kef Q Series

Front L&R
Kef Q350 –$699.00 a pair

Center
Kef 650c –$699.00

L&R Surrounds
Kef Q150 – $399.99

EMTAdam

Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 1, 2021

To answer some questions.. I have 2 SVS PB3000's that I'll be keeping. The SR9080s are great but id like to have matching speakers. Im looking for 5 total speakers, LCR and RS's. I think id like to be able to wall mount the FL and FR speakers along with the rear surrounds. Center will go under tv on a stand. I do really like the sound I get from the def techs. The room is used 90% movies, the other 10% music, tv, gaming.

EMTAdam

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 1, 2021

Also. WAF has no input on what i do in that room. Running everything with a denon x4500h at the moment.

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Zorba922

· #10 · Aug 1, 2021

EMTAdam said:
To answer some questions.. I have 2 SVS PB3000's that I'll be keeping. The SR9080s are great but id like to have matching speakers. Im looking for 5 total speakers, LCR and RS's. I think id like to be able to wall mount the FL and FR speakers along with the rear surrounds. Center will go under tv on a stand. I do really like the sound I get from the def techs. The room is used 90% movies, the other 10% music, tv, gaming.

EMTAdam said:
Also. WAF has no input on what i do in that room. Running everything with a denon x4500h at the moment.

No WAF needed and wall mounting FL/FR, 90% movies = I'd take a gander at the Ascend 200SE in that case. Sealed design, dual 4" woofers in an enclosure just a little bigger than most single 4" woofer bookshelves.

You can easily do them at all 5 positions if you believe in the "seamless soundstage via all identical speakers" theory or do 4 of them with an Emotiva C1+ under your TV.

Dual PB3000 in a room that small...the mind boggles!

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Soulburner

· #11 · Aug 1, 2021

nonametofame said:
Most Def Tech owners really enjoyed the large soundstage so KEF with their concentric drivers would be a nice move for those looking for more refinement while retaining wide dispersion.

? KEF tends to be narrower.

Soulburner

· #12 · Aug 1, 2021 (Edited)

EMTAdam said:
To answer some questions.. I have 2 SVS PB3000's that I'll be keeping. The SR9080s are great but id like to have matching speakers. Im looking for 5 total speakers, LCR and RS's. I think id like to be able to wall mount the FL and FR speakers along with the rear surrounds. Center will go under tv on a stand. I do really like the sound I get from the def techs. The room is used 90% movies, the other 10% music, tv, gaming.

If wall-mounting is a strong desire, and I understand that in a small room, then:

5x Revel S16

Find a good Revel dealer and pay less than MSRP.

And let me make a recommendation.

If you do on-walls like this, pull the couch forward 3-4 feet. Situate it at about the 8-9-foot mark from the front wall. You will get MUCH better sound and bass there. Wall-mounting the fronts gives you the room to get that couch away from the back wall.

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Ryan Statz

· #13 · Aug 1, 2021

EMTAdam said:
Trying to get away from towers/floor standing speakers to save space.

Then the B1+ x 4 all and C2+ (or C1+ if you are trying to save space).

KenM10759

· #14 · Aug 1, 2021

Look at Totem Tribe on-wall speakers. Really good quality, can go loud, and can be black or white.

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sigpig

· #15 · Aug 2, 2021

Two pairs of these: Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-160M (Ebony)
One of these: Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-450C (Ebony)
For $1147 total.
Chane A2.4 x3 for LCR, A4.5 for surrounds for $1096 before shipping: Chane A Series
Ascend Acoustics CMT-340SE for LCR/HTM-200SE for surrounds for $1216 shipped:

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CMT-340SE MINI-TOWER PAIR

Uncompromising Performance, Our Best Value! "These speakers’ levels of design, capability, and refinement far exceed what could previously be expected from this price range. Those considering buying far more expensive speakers would be well advised not to ignore the Ascends simply because of...

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HTM-200SE HOME THEATER MONITOR PAIR

High Performance Compact Speaker "The new 200SE continues the Ascend tradition of offering unmatched component quality and performance at affordable pricing." With a linear frequency response and bass down to 70Hz, this compact versatile loudspeaker is the perfect solution for space limited...

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RSL CG25 for LCR, CG5 for surrounds for $1975:

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CG25 Monitor / Center Channel - RSL Speakers

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CG5 Bookshelf Speaker - RSL Speakers

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EMTAdam

Discussion Starter · #16 · Aug 2, 2021

A lot of great input. Thank you. Going thru each recommendation and comparing.

EMTAdam

Discussion Starter · #17 · Aug 2, 2021

Soulburner said:
If you do on-walls like this, pull the couch forward 3-4 feet. Situate it at about the 8-9-foot mark from the front wall. You will get MUCH better sound and bass there. Wall-mounting the fronts gives you the room to get that couch away from the back wall.

That is how I am setup now. My couch is 30 inches off the back wall and im right about 8ft to the screen. "screen is an 82" Q80" And you're right.... if i move a foot forward, or backwards the bass vanishes. I have the subs back to back between the couch and wall.

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Soulburner

· #18 · Aug 2, 2021

EMTAdam said:
That is how I am setup now. My couch is 30 inches off the back wall and im right about 8ft to the screen. "screen is an 82" Q80" And you're right.... if i move a foot forward, or backwards the bass vanishes. I have the subs back to back between the couch and wall.

You might get even better bass if one of the subs is moved up front, taking advantage of the front/back placement.

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