What you're describing is called "Forced Subtitles". I think there's an option in makemkv to always include forced subtitles, but I'm not sure. Either way, it doesn't always work and still won't include the forced subtitles. On those blurays where it doesn't work, in Makemkv you can include all English subtitles into the mkv file. Then figure out which one is the one that only translates foreign languages by cycling through the subtitle tracks. Then use MKVMerge to mark that subtitle track as the Forced one. There are also ways to 'burn' a subtitle track onto the movie itself with Handbrake but i've never done that.
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Help w/ ripping Blu Rays / DVDs that have subtitles in only certain parts...
Hi All!
I typically use MakeMKV to rip my DVDs / Blu-Rays to my library, but can someone help me out w/ the "right" way to rip a blu-ray with subtitles only during a specific part. For example, let's say the movie in English, but then a la Kill Bill there's a scene where people are speaking Japanese and there are subtitles. It seems as though I can either turn subtitles on all the time or off all the time - what's the right way? Thanks!
I typically use MakeMKV to rip my DVDs / Blu-Rays to my library, but can someone help me out w/ the "right" way to rip a blu-ray with subtitles only during a specific part. For example, let's say the movie in English, but then a la Kill Bill there's a scene where people are speaking Japanese and there are subtitles. It seems as though I can either turn subtitles on all the time or off all the time - what's the right way? Thanks!
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Pretty much what gfunke said - In MakeMkv, I choose all English subtitles and then figure out which ones are SDH, not SDH, Commentary and what are forced english. The forced subtitles thread/doc is generally useful. I then set the Forced and Default flags for the forced subtitles. If you're using DirevtVobSub, it has an "auto" forced subtitle option that seems to pick which ones are forced, despite the flag being set - not always accurate, but pretty good too.
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Originally Posted by gfunke /t/1518282/help-w-ripping-blu-rays-dvds-that-have-subtitles-in-only-certain-parts#post_24369114
What you're describing is called "Forced Subtitles". I think there's an option in makemkv to always include forced subtitles, but I'm not sure. Either way, it doesn't always work and still won't include the forced subtitles. On those blurays where it doesn't work, in Makemkv you can include all English subtitles into the mkv file. Then figure out which one is the one that only translates foreign languages by cycling through the subtitle tracks. Then use MKVMerge to mark that subtitle track as the Forced one. There are also ways to 'burn' a subtitle track onto the movie itself with Handbrake but i've never done that.
Pretty much what gfunke said - In MakeMkv, I choose all English subtitles and then figure out which ones are SDH, not SDH, Commentary and what are forced english. The forced subtitles thread/doc is generally useful. I then set the Forced and Default flags for the forced subtitles. If you're using DirevtVobSub, it has an "auto" forced subtitle option that seems to pick which ones are forced, despite the flag being set - not always accurate, but pretty good too.
I posed a similar question in another thread last week.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1517918/question-about-makemkv-xbmc-and-forced-subtitles
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1517918/question-about-makemkv-xbmc-and-forced-subtitles
I do and it works well. I wouldn't encourage people to Handbrake their movies only for this reason since as you pointed out you can identify and flag the forced subtitle track using MakeMKV and MKVMerge. However for anyone who likes to use Handbrake to compress your movies anyway, selecting all English subtitle tracks on the rip and then selecting Foreign Audio Scan, Forced only, Burn in in Handbrake is any easy and good way to catch them. In fact I've had a couple of times where Handbrake identified forced subtitles where MakeMKV didn't, so using those settings can be an extra failsafe.
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Originally Posted by gfunke /t/1518282/help-w-ripping-blu-rays-dvds-that-have-subtitles-in-only-certain-parts#post_24369114
There are also ways to 'burn' a subtitle track onto the movie itself with Handbrake but i've never done that.
I do and it works well. I wouldn't encourage people to Handbrake their movies only for this reason since as you pointed out you can identify and flag the forced subtitle track using MakeMKV and MKVMerge. However for anyone who likes to use Handbrake to compress your movies anyway, selecting all English subtitle tracks on the rip and then selecting Foreign Audio Scan, Forced only, Burn in in Handbrake is any easy and good way to catch them. In fact I've had a couple of times where Handbrake identified forced subtitles where MakeMKV didn't, so using those settings can be an extra failsafe.
Forgot to mention that one benefit of using Handbrake to burn in forced subs is if you have to make sure the files are also playable through lower end devices with little or no subtitle support, since burning them in to the image itself does guarantee that the player won't fail to display them. So there is that.
What you have to check for when you burn in subs is to change the font color to whatever the original was and also to adjust placement of the subs. White subs on a mostly white film wouldn't be very good 😊
That's because at that point it isn't a sub file anymore, but part of the image itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElJimador /t/1518282/help-w-ripping-blu-rays-dvds-that-have-subtitles-in-only-certain-parts#post_24376253
Forgot to mention that one benefit of using Handbrake to burn in forced subs is if you have to make sure the files are also playable through lower end devices with little or no subtitle support, since burning them in to the image itself does guarantee that the player won't fail to display them. So there is that.
What you have to check for when you burn in subs is to change the font color to whatever the original was and also to adjust placement of the subs. White subs on a mostly white film wouldn't be very good 😊
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