[monstosity12]

Hi Fellow Avs Subscibers -


I had a question. I recently just rearranged my room. Which puts my amp farther away from my speakers than before. I originally only needed 8 feet of Bluejeanscable 10 Gauge speaker cables per speaker. Now I need 38 feet per speaker in 10 gauge.


Is this going to matter to the sound quality at all? I really do not want to degrade my speakers at all?


Thanks for your help.

 

[Gizmologist]

Absolutely no difference at all.

 

[monstosity12]



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Originally Posted by Gizmologist /forum/post/18224075


Absolutely no difference at all.

Thanks Gizmalogist -


I was hoping this would not matter. I was hoping it wouldnt mess with the Signal to noise ratio.


I have pretty good equipment that I invested quite a bit in so I did not want to hinder this in anyway. Im awaiting my tax return still, and once I do get it I will be "upgrading" even more. Better speakers, ect, plus the new panasonic VT25.


Thanks once again.

 

[Gizmologist]

S/NR is only a factor of the amps design. Speaker wiring plays no part in S/NR. That is a very common misconception.

 

[Joe Skubinski]



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Originally Posted by monstosity12 /forum/post/18224051


Hi Fellow Avs Subscibers -


I had a question. I recently just rearranged my room. Which puts my amp farther away from my speakers than before. I originally only needed 8 feet of Bluejeanscable 10 Gauge speaker cables per speaker. Now I need 38 feet per speaker in 10 gauge.


Is this going to matter to the sound quality at all? I really do not want to degrade my speakers at all?


Thanks for your help.

What are the speakers?

 

[twitch54]



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Originally Posted by Gizmologist /forum/post/18224075


Absolutely no difference at all.

Interesting that you say this, not knowing what speakers the Op is using.........


Oh, BTW, given your answer is it fair to assume you know little about electrostatics ?

 

[David James]



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Originally Posted by twitch54 /forum/post/18226618


Interesting that you say this, not knowing what speakers the Op is using.........

What speakers would require lower than 10 gage wire at 38'?

 

[Gizmologist]

40+ years and using some of the highest power amps, longest speaker runs and largest clusters and stacks you can imagine.


We do concert venues, conventions, TV productions, the Emmys and Oscars, and theater productions. I would say my experience has provided a rather varied array of amp/cable/speaker combinations to give me some degree of assurance on the performance of the OP's 38ft speaker run.

 

[twitch54]



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Originally Posted by David James /forum/post/18226862


What speakers would require lower than 10 gage wire at 38'?

This hopefully will help those interested to better understand ........



http://sound.westhost.com/cablewhitepaper.htm


David, just in case you didn't know Roger Sanders is almost in your backyard.....Conifer, Co

 

[David James]



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Originally Posted by twitch54 /forum/post/18228694


This hopefully will help those interested to better understand ........



http://sound.westhost.com/cablewhitepaper.htm

Thanks for the link, I don't know anything about electrostatic speakers.

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Originally Posted by twitch54 /forum/post/18228694


David, just in case you didn't know Roger Sanders is almost in your backyard.....Conifer, Co

My backyard isn't that big

 

[twitch54]



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Originally Posted by David James /forum/post/18229011


Thanks for the link, I don't know anything about electrostatic speakers.

no problem, given 'Gizmos' comment about 38' speaker runs I doubt that he did either !

.....regardless of our age we're never to old to learn !

 

[geekhd]



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Originally Posted by twitch54 /forum/post/18226618


Interesting that you say this, not knowing what speakers the Op is using.........


Oh, BTW, given your answer is it fair to assume you know little about electrostatics ?

Are you saying 38' of 10ga copper wire sold at Bluejeans cable isn't a good choice for electrostatics speakers? If so, why and what do you think is an alternative?


Don't forget, OP was already using 8' of 10ga wire. Assuming he uses electrostatic speakers, if it worked for him then, what makes you think it won't for longer run? Could that be because they change the conduit jacket thickness or twisting pattern for cables longer than 8'?

 

[twitch54]



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Originally Posted by geekhd /forum/post/18229598


Are you saying 38' of 10ga copper wire sold at Bluejeans cable isn't a good choice for electrostatics speakers? If so, why and what do you think is an alternative?

Not familiar with their cable and it's relative specifications. But for the $$ spent I do know that signalcable's 'ultra speaker cable' offers good low capacitance specification.

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Don't forget, OP was already using 8' of 10ga wire. Assuming he uses electrostatic speakers, if it worked for him then, what makes you think it won't for longer run? Could that be because they change the conduit jacket thickness or twisting pattern for cables longer than 8'?

With respect to electrostatics (which are large capacitors into themselves which in turn can have stability issues with some amps) one should be aware of capacitance and inductance specs when running long lengths of speaker cable.

 

[monstosity12]

Regarding the question of what speakers I have with the 38' run of cabling.


Dali Ikon 7's and the 5.1 set to go with them. Which when I get my tax returns I will be upgrading to Helikon 400 MK2's fronts only though.


I find BlueJeansCable are very well made and cant get much better.


Thanks everyone to answer my question.

 

[monstosity12]

WIthout adding another subject (not sure where to put it in) I would like to ask you a similair question.


What about my 30 foot run of hdmi cable. Do I need a very good hdmi cable?


Thanks

 

[Jinjuku]



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Originally Posted by monstosity12 /forum/post/18236015


WIthout adding another subject (not sure where to put it in) I would like to ask you a similair question.


What about my 30 foot run of hdmi cable. Do I need a very good hdmi cable?


Thanks

I have a 33 foot cable from Parts Express that works just fine with my setup... Cost me $27 plus some shipping.

 

[Glimmie]



Quote:
Originally Posted by monstosity12 /forum/post/18236015


WIthout adding another subject (not sure where to put it in) I would like to ask you a similair question.


What about my 30 foot run of hdmi cable. Do I need a very good hdmi cable?


Thanks

Yes you do need a quality HDMI cable. However quality is not proportional to price. You can spend hundeds of dollars on an HDMI cable that looks very impressive but doesn't meet specs. Likewise you can spend $50 and get a perfectly good cable for a 30 foot run.


Look to Bluejeans Cable. They sell decent HDMI cables at a fair price.

 

[monstosity12]

Thanks Glimmie -


I was just worried since my blu ray player 1st goes through my denon 4308 av receiver. And I have heard av recievers are notoroius for not providing enough volts for longer runs.


Do you still think there will be no problems? If there is going to be a problem, how would I know. Would my blu ray 1080P quality become 720P, would there be snowing pixilation, etc?


Thanks. Sorry for all of the questions.