[dweilbacher]

I am brand new to the AV Receiver world. Up until now, I have simply had the following:


HDTV (1 HDMI Input)

BluRay Player (HDMI Out to TV)

Cable Box (Component Out to TV)

Audio Receiver + 4 speakers (analog in from TV)


I decided it is time to upgrade it all, but wanted to start small. The Receiver. Purchased the Yamaha RX-V467.


All I want to do for now is replace the audio receiver with the new one (just use the audio part, not the video). Speaker wire connections first. Then connect the Analog audio out from the TV to the new receiver audio in. Select the analog audio in port AV4 (via menu)... and nothing. No sound.


This is all I want to do for now, but can't. And confused why.


Effort so far:

Tried every setting I could think of on new receiver.

Connected HDMI cables (form BD and Cable) to receiver and verified I get sound and video. Works fine this way.

Connected old receiver (audio only) to verify TV still sending Analog audio.

Ran to Bestbuy and picked up another AVR (pioneer)... same problem (works with HDMI as input, but will not work with just audio input from TV).


I must be missing something. Why would these new receiver not accept audio input from the TV and pipe it to the speakers? I must be missing something here...?

 

[palehorse]

Why not connect everything to receiver, then use a single hdmi cable to the TV? I'm fairly sure you can set the new Yamaha to pass all video through untouched.


What you're doing really makes no sense because your TV isn't going to be able to output DTS and other great formats through its analog connection. Hell, it may even downgrade everything to Stereo... yuck!


What exactly are you trying to accomplish by wiring it backwards?

 

[dweilbacher]

I completely agree that my final set up will have all source units going to the receiver (via HDMI). Then a single HDMI to the TV.


However I'm still building my Home Theater (slowly due to cost). The Speaker are Stereo only (for now) and the TV is too old to support any of the features on the receiver (like ARC). The TV is also 4:3 (not wide screen), but it is HD. (Also note that there is a software bug in the Cable box when connecting HDMI to a Non Widesceen HDTV. I need to work around this for now).


So, if I set up the system as you suggest, then I will need to use the Receiver remote for both volume and source (input). Then use the Cable remote for Guide and Channels. Then use the TV remote to change from Wide Screen to 4:3 (Note this is required due to a software bug in the cable box that "assume" all HDMI connections are Wide Screen. So to get around this issue, I have to connect Cable box to TV via componet). 3 remotes is a bit confusing for my kids. Hence looking for a simple (temporary).


Once I get a new TV and Speakers, then I can hook it up through the receiver. But for now I just want the receiver to act as an Audio Amp to driver my speakers (ie TV Audio Out to Receiver In). Then I can simply use the Cable Remote to control the Cable box and TV.


Welcome any suggestions on why the AV Receivers don't seem to know that I'm sending them an Audio input from the TV.

 

[palehorse]

What input did you plug the TV into on the receiver? Whichever one that is, once you've selected it using the receiver's remote, try pushing SIG SELECT (near the bottom of the remote) to switch audio sources.


How do you plan to view the 1120's setup menus on the TV? Or, are you trying to run the entire setup from the front LCD of the receiver itself?

 

[dweilbacher]

First, thanks for your reply and help.

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What input did you plug the TV into on the receiver?

Good question: I tried this with both a Yamaha and Pioneer Rcv. For the Yamaha, I tried two options:

- AV4: used Optical cable from TV to Rcv. Then selected AV4 in the options menu (TV Input).

- AV5: used RCA cables from TV to Rcv. Then selected AV5 in the options menu.


For the Pioneer, I only tried the RCA cable. Connected them to the TV/SAT Audio In port. Then used the SELECT SEL button to select "A". Note I cycled through all the options under SELECT SEL, none provided sound.


Seemed fairly simply to set up. I then hooked up my old Audio only receiver and connected the same RCA cables. Worked fine.

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How do you plan to view the 1120's setup menus on the TV? Or, are you trying to run the entire setup from the front LCD of the receiver itself?

Note the Pioneer is not the 1120 model. FSX820. I simply ran a video cable from the Rcv to the TV (Video 4 input). I was able to see the on Rcv GUI. But the GUI is mainly for setting up 5.1. I really not there yet. Just trying to get sound in Stereo out of my current speakers (floor speaker, 8 Ohm, Techniques model).

 

[dweilbacher]

Nevermind... I decided to simply move forward. Thanks for trying.


I'm still having another problem with the Yamaha Rcv, but will open another thread.