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I have a 5.1 receiver in my bedroom and I mainly want to have a device to store my music and perhaps some video. I want all my CD's ripped to a HDD so I can play anything I want on my bedroom setup. I can use a flatscreen TV for navigation, or possibly a smaller led pc monitor for when listening to music and not watching video.


I also have a receiver in my living room to be used as a home theatre setup. I would like to playback all the content there from the storage device in my room. Unfortunately I don't have a modern enough receiver to allow for HD audio over HDMI, but I can work around that.


So what are my options? Somebody pointed me to the WDTV Live HUB which I am looking into. If I put this in my bedroom, I can store and play music etc, but I am not sure what I need in the living room to allow me to play music there, not to mention navigate menu's.


Any other idea's?
 

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There are lots of options. I keep all my content on my computer and network from it to the various rooms I want content in. I just use the cheap WD HD Live and it works fine. Can easily be hooked to HDMI audio/video or can connect via optical, or plain old RCA.


If you don't want to use your computer than the hub should work and you can add a WD HD Live unit in the other room to stream to.
 

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So what are my options?.


Any other idea's?

There's a lot of variables to consider depending on 'what' you intend to stream and how you're going to stream it?


Is your network wired or wireless?

Do you need an 'easy to navigate' setup for others to access the media? May seem silly but lots of streaming setups go unused or are quickly forgotten because they're just too cumbersome.

Do you already have a music and or movie library and what are the primary file types? If you don't but intend to create one, it's best to start from scratch and taylor it around current and on the horizon technology.


There's no 'does it all' solution/box out there but there are a few that come close, but 'buginess' plagues a lot of streaming devices,solutions so plan for your acceptable tradeoffs.
 

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You seem to be indicating that playing music (as opposed to video) is your top priority. If so, there are tons of options, and you'd probably want to focus on the ones that will offer the best UI. One option would be the current (black) Apple TV, which is inexpensive ($99), has Wi-Fi (802.11n), and can be controlled via an iPhone or iPod Touch, if you have one of those. Your central server would need to be able to run iTunes (unless you want to jailbreak the ATV2, but I'm trying to keep things simple here).


For videos, the ATV2 becomes less popular, as you'd need to convert your videos to MP4/M4V format (using an app like Handbrake) or be content with the built-in video functionality that Apple provides (e.g., renting TV shows and movies from Apple, or streaming Netflix).
 

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In my thread asking about the PS3, Alx330 commented that the PS3 wouldn't be a good choice, and suggested something like the WDTV Live Hub, or a Tvix Slim S1. I was originally hoping to use the PS3 for my purposes, but it doesn't sound ideal....so, I started this new thread based on what I have and what I want to do.

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There are lots of options. I keep all my content on my computer and network from it to the various rooms I want content in. I just use the cheap WD HD Live and it works fine. Can easily be hooked to HDMI audio/video or can connect via optical, or plain old RCA.


If you don't want to use your computer than the hub should work and you can add a WD HD Live unit in the other room to stream to.

Ok, that sounds good. I guess I need to know more about how one would hook something like this up.


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There's a lot of variables to consider depending on 'what' you intend to stream and how you're going to stream it?


Is your network wired or wireless?

Do you need an 'easy to navigate' setup for others to access the media? May seem silly but lots of streaming setups go unused or are quickly forgotten because they're just too cumbersome.

Do you already have a music and or movie library and what are the primary file types? If you don't but intend to create one, it's best to start from scratch and taylor it around current and on the horizon technology.


There's no 'does it all' solution/box out there but there are a few that come close, but 'buginess' plagues a lot of streaming devices,solutions so plan for your acceptable tradeoffs.

I have a DLINK DIR-655 wireless router but I have only been using the wired connections with my PC. I will also use the wireless router for my sisters laptop, it's been fixed at the moment.


I need some sort of navigation. I live in a house with my sister renting a room, but she won't necessarily use this stuff much. I like the idea of being able to use my smart phone to see and play tracks and videos back on my AV systems, like a navigation/remote control.


I don't have a music library. I'd rather rip all my CD's as full quality lossless.


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You seem to be indicating that playing music (as opposed to video) is your top priority. If so, there are tons of options, and you'd probably want to focus on the ones that will offer the best UI. One option would be the current (black) Apple TV, which is inexpensive ($99), has Wi-Fi (802.11n), and can be controlled via an iPhone or iPod Touch, if you have one of those. Your central server would need to be able to run iTunes (unless you want to jailbreak the ATV2, but I'm trying to keep things simple here).


For videos, the ATV2 becomes less popular, as you'd need to convert your videos to MP4/M4V format (using an app like Handbrake) or be content with the built-in video functionality that Apple provides (e.g., renting TV shows and movies from Apple, or streaming Netflix).

I will add info to the top of the thread, duplicated here:


My setup:


Bedroom


1) Marantz SR7000 AV receiver with no HDMI.

2) PC and or laptop with DLINK DIR-655 wireless router.

3) Samsung Galaxy S smart phone with wireless and bluetooth.

4) I hope to eventually have a flatscreen TV in the bedroom, possibly a 46-50" Panasonic ST30 for example.


Living room


1) Marantz SR9600 AV receiver with HDMI 1.1 and FIREWIRE.

2) A flatscreen plasma TV yet to be bought. Most likely a Panasonic 50" to 65" ST,GT or VT30.


So let's say I get a WDTV Live Hub and put it in my bedroom. What would I need in the living room in order to access the content and play back music and videos on the living room setup? What would be the wireless receiver?


thanks


Chris
 

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Check out subsonic.org.


You can try out their service to stream videos and music to your smartphone and it will also give you a domain that you could use to access it from outside your network on other computers.


It's free software with a free trial for 30 days, then you can choose to donate to be granted a license. You can supposedly donate anything you want, but the requested amount is 20 bucks. Streaming video on your network works great on my droid incredible. Unfortunately 3G buffers to much for videos when I'm outside the network unless the video is converted to a less demanding file type. Music works no problem on 3g.


I wouldn't give up on the PS3, you have a couple of options with that to use as a streamer. You could use Tversity (free software) to act as a server to your PS3. You could use the PS3's web interface to stream your content, but since the PS3 is DLNA compatible you could use Tversity to download the file to your PS3, (I just read that in the last couple of days) it will give you better quality instead of transcoding on the fly. I haven't done this with my PS3 but I did try tversity and it works pretty nice.


Previous to tversity I did connect to my PS3 via DLNA and if it's the correct file type the PS3 will play it.


Their is also PS3mediaserver I believe which I haven't looked to much into, but it's the same idea I suppose as tversity.


I do have a WDTV live plus and it's a great little device, but it does take some work if you want movies covers and such. Their is aftermarket firmware by Bradd which works nicely and can be set to pull meta data for the covers, so all in all that may be an option for you.


Good luck.
 

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I don't really want anything streamed to my smartphone. That would be nice, but it's not my priority. I just want music and video playback in my bedroom and livingroom. I was hoping to use the smart phone as a navigation/remote control.


One issue is HD audio. My receivers don't have HD audio. I'd need something that decodes to analog....there are solutions for that but they are expensive.


So what exactly is the difference between the WDTV Live Hub and the PS3?


In either case, what do I need in my living room in order to receive and playback what would be on a PS3 or WDTV Live Hub in my bedroom?


I have a wireless router in the room where the PS3 and/or WDTV Live Hub will be. I guess I need to research these two options. I really don't know how this stuff works. One thing for sure, is I would prefer to just use the PS3 or a WDTV Live Hub with internal or external HDD and not have to use a PC or laptop as a server.
 

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If you don't want to use a pc or laptop as the server, then I would say your best bet is to get a couple of the wdtv live plus' with an external 2tb which can be accessed thru your network NAS or the live hub with internal hard drive and a live plus in the other room.


With the NAS you'll be able to access the storage with your laptop and PS3 as well. You may be able to do this with the hub as well but I'm not certain.
 

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Also with the live plus' you will need to add wireless adapters if you don't have wiring in place. Only certain ones work.
 

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Ok. Guess I have to figure out the difference between the WDTV Live Hub and the Live Plus.


So I could have a WDTV Live Hub or Live plus with a HDD in my bedroom hooked up to my DLINK wireless router and use a WDTV Live Plus on the receiver in the living room?
 

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The WDTV hub can stream to a wdtv live plus. I don't know if you can stream from one live plus with an attached hard drive to another stand alone live plus. I believe you cannot.


I was typing on my phone earlier and my sentence got a little mixed up. What I meant to say when I said this:

"I would say your best bet is to get a couple of the wdtv live plus' with an external 2tb which can be accessed thru your network NAS"


was that if you use a Network Attached Storage (NAS) as your external hard drive it will be accessible by either live plus because it sits on the network and is not directly attached.


The NAS would get attached to the router and can be seen by either, live plus or live plus and hub.


Here is one NAS example but their are some cheaper alternatives.
http://www.google.com/products/catal...&ved=0CBMQrRI#


Good luck, keep us posted on what you decide.
 

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The WDTV hub can stream to a wdtv live plus. I don't know if you can stream from one live plus with an attached hard drive to another stand alone live plus. I believe you cannot.


I was typing on my phone earlier and my sentence got a little mixed up. What I meant to say when I said this:

"I would say your best bet is to get a couple of the wdtv live plus' with an external 2tb which can be accessed thru your network NAS"


was that if you use a Network Attached Storage (NAS) as your external hard drive it will be accessible by either live plus because it sits on the network and is not directly attached.


The NAS would get attached to the router and can be seen by either, live plus or live plus and hub.


Here is one NAS example but their are some cheaper alternatives.
http://www.google.com/products/catal...&ved=0CBMQrRI#


Good luck, keep us posted on what you decide.

In that case, I could use a WDTV Live Hub and a WDTV Live Plus in the living room, right? Why would I need a NAS if I have storage in the WDTV Live Hub connected to a wireless router?


I really wish I could do this with a PS3 in the bedroom to avoid duplication. Could I stream content from the PS3 and a connected HDD to a WDTV Live Plus?
 

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Do you have a wired network?


also, how do you plan to get the content onto the WD hub? You'll need a networked computer to rip the content and then move it to the Hub.
 

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Do you have a wired network?


also, how do you plan to get the content onto the WD hub? You'll need a networked computer to rip the content and then move it to the Hub.

I have a wireless router and the PC is connected to the router via ethernet cable because they are in the same room together. I was planning to use my PC to rip all my music onto a hard drive, either external or directly into the WDTV Live Hub. I was thinking I'd just start ripping my CD's onto an external HDD for now and then I could copy the files onto the WDTV Live Hub's drive. I only have 200 CD's so figure less than 150 GB for lossless files.


I suppose I could run an ethernet cable to the living room but I shouldn't have to with the DIR-655 wireless router.
 

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To answer your question cpc you wouldn't need the NAS with a Hub and a Live plus combo. With that setup you will be able to do what you want. The NAS is an alternative which would give you similar functionality with a couple of +'s.


If the hub is DLNA compliant it may be accessible by the PS3 as well.
 

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Just looked at it, its been a while. Ya its DLNA/upnp, it states in the description connect to any computer or game console. I would start with the hub and see how it works out with the PS3. Take advantage of your wireless router also and perhaps put the hub in the living room.
 

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Just looked at it, its been a while. Ya its DLNA/upnp, it states in the description connect to any computer or game console. I would start with the hub and see how it works out with the PS3. Take advantage of your wireless router also and perhaps put the hub in the living room.

So I could stream from the Hub to the PS3 and/or stream from the PS3 to the Hub? Different ways to go I guess.


I guess it all depends on file formats. If I wanted to put all my DVD's and BD's on a HDD for playback, that is an option if the files work on the unit playing them back. Of course, I would have issues for HD audio playback since I don't have the codecs in my receivers. I would need HDMI to analog which exist, but are kinda costly to add on.
 

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Ya should work out that way as far as streaming. HD audio may be your compromise, not sure about the finer details. Maybe you'll get some other guidance once you have a final setup.
 
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