[Crisao23]

front page news here:

http://www.bit-tech.net/


We have some hot NVIDIA-related news for you direct from the show floor of Computex here in Taipei:

1) They have confirmed their new mid-range 6800 card, the GT, will be clocked at 350 / 1000Mhz and will feature a single-slot cooling solution, a single power connector and a mere 300W PSU requirement. Depending on how a couple of things pan out, this full 16-pipe card could offer the best bang-for-buck in the 6800 range.


2) If you’re counting on HDTV working on your spanky new 6800, you’re out of luck: it has been confirmed this morning by Derek Perez of NVIDIA that the both the core and the existing reference board have no capacity to support an HDTV signal – though it is planned for the future NV43 & NV41 cores. If you are hoping a third party vendor is going to slap a discrete chip on there, you are likely to be disappointed because as far as we know no vendors are straying from the reference design.


The key lesson here is reading what is said, not reading what you expect: "6800 will support HDTV" is not the same statement as "6800 does support HDTV". To say that NVIDIA's Marketing is a little misleading here would be an understatement.


This is a shame...

 

[darklordjames]

this is no different than the FX series of cards. they require an external component video encoder to get HD component signals out of them. if no card manufacturer decides to add a component encoder, then the HD capability goes to waste. Bit-Tech is creating news out of nothing.


of course, none of this stops anyone from running VGA/DVI or using a component transcoder to get there HTPC on their HDTV.


what is interesting is that they seem to be planning on adding an on-chip component encoder to the NV41 and NV43 cores (the lower end 6x00s). this is like when they moved the s-video encoder on-chip for the GF4MX series, and then brought it to the entire line-up for the FX series.

 

[madpoet]

Are you sure? I read that as saying that the chipset doesn't even have any HD capabilities built in like the X800s do.


-MP

 

[darklordjames]

the Xx00 series HD outpput abilities are exactly the same as the 9x00 series. the 6x00 series HD output abilities are exactly the same as the FX5x00 series. nothing has changed. it's not like they took out the ability to set a res of 1280x720 or anything.

 

[vidkidd]

The review clearly didnt ask the right questions to get the right answers. DOH!! No HDTV probably means no integrated HDTV tuner solution or no ATSC output.... Ive spoken to reps at NVidia and the 6800 has many creature features specifically for HTPC applications. It started in on the 5700, got better with the 5900 and is even better with the 6800. From what it sounds like the 6800GT will be my target purchase. Mid priced w/o the pricy high end 3d performance and all the cool HT features we all need.


2004 will be a major year in Video Card releases for HT applications.


Thx,

Vidkidd

 

[vpopovic]

Quote:

Originally posted by Crisao23 front page news here: http://www.bit-tech.net/ We have some hot NVIDIA-related news for you direct from the show floor of Computex here in Taipei: 1) They have confirmed their new mid-range 6800 card, the GT, will be clocked at 350 / 1000Mhz and will feature a single-slot cooling solution, a single power connector and a mere 300W PSU requirement. Depending on how a couple of things pan out, this full 16-pipe card could offer the best bang-for-buck in the 6800 range. 2) If you’re counting on HDTV working on your spanky new 6800, you’re out of luck: it has been confirmed this morning by Derek Perez of NVIDIA that the both the core and the existing reference board have no capacity to support an HDTV signal – though it is planned for the future NV43 & NV41 cores. If you are hoping a third party vendor is going to slap a discrete chip on there, you are likely to be disappointed because as far as we know no vendors are straying from the reference design. The key lesson here is reading what is said, not reading what you expect: "6800 will support HDTV" is not the same statement as "6800 does support HDTV". To say that NVIDIA's Marketing is a little misleading here would be an understatement. This is a shame...

I am not realy sure what all this means. I can play any kind of HDTV file (MPEG2, WM9, even stray codecs with appropriate software decoder) with my Quadro FX 1100 right now either through VGA or DVI. I also have support for all output HDTV formats you can think off, including professional 1080p 24 fps that very few scalers can do right now (Teranex will do it for heafty 50K).

 

[Jaymstr]

I think it is talking about hardware acceleration for HD applications, such as WMV 9.

 

[madpoet]

Quote:

Originally posted by darklordjames the Xx00 series HD outpput abilities are exactly the same as the 9x00 series. the 6x00 series HD output abilities are exactly the same as the FX5x00 series. nothing has changed. it's not like they took out the ability to set a res of 1280x720 or anything.

But the X800 adds a plethora of hardware assistance for HD decoding, etc; that the 9x00 series does not have. It will offload some of the decoding from the CPU to graphics card. That is what I took them as saying the Nvidia card lacked.

 

[stanger89]

I've got to go with darklordjames on this one:
Quote:

the core and the existing reference board have no capacity to support an HDTV signal

The current line of FX chips can't create an HDTV signal either.

 

[RayL Jr.]

Quote:

Originally posted by vidkidd The review clearly didnt ask the right questions to get the right answers. DOH!! No HDTV probably means no integrated HDTV tuner solution or no ATSC output....

No cupholders yet either?